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Customer Rates A Vegan Café With One Star Because They Didn’ t Have ‘ Normal’ Milk The Owner Replies With A Witty Comeback Interview With Owner
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For someone who likes my coffee with oat milk only, this bad review left for Café Van Gogh, a vegan restaurant in Brixton, comes as somewhat of a bamboozlement. According to the dissatisfied customer, they were forced to drink oat milk since the place didn't have "normal milk." "'It says 'vegan friendly' but is just vegan," the review stated, noting that their oat milk cappuccino tasted 'like porridge.' But the owner Steve Clarke, 47, who runs the non-profit business with head chef and co-owner Bonita de Silva, decided to respond. So they penned a mic-drop response putting the customer in their place and winning the hearts of the internet. "You can't win 'em all…," stated the caption alongside the screenshot that Steve shared on the restaurant's Facebook page. Read it all in full right below and share your thoughts in the comments! A dissatisfied customer recently left a one-star review for Cafe Van Gogh in Brixton claiming they forced them to drink oat milk that tasted like porridge
Image credits: cafevangoghldn But the owners Steve Clarke and Bonita de Silva didn t stay silent and penned a hilarious response that put the critic in their place
Image credits: cafevangoghldn Image credits: cafevangoghldn Bored Panda reached out to Steven Clarke, the owner of Café Van Gogh, which is a Brixton Road, London-based vegan restaurant and a non-profit social enterprise. The cafe works in conjunction with Toucan Employment, a learning disability employment charity, to run a program of on-the-job training for people with additional challenges in life, such as a learning disability or a mental health problem, to provide them with the support and confidence to seek paid employment. "Along with all businesses, we do, of course, get occasional bad reviews. This is normal, and doesn't faze us and is an opportunity for us to learn and grow," Steven told us. "The point we were trying to make with our response is please talk to us if you have a problem," he added. The cafe is a non-profit social enterprise that trains and employs adults with learning disabilities and runs on kindness
Image credits: cafevangoghldn The owner explained that the team of Café Van Gogh is an "incredibly approachable team of staff, and will find time to discuss your problems. We move mountains to put things right, if we're given the opportunity to do so… but a review posted perhaps days later leaves us with little opportunity to do anything about it, except exercise our right of reply." The customers can contribute to their pay it forward scheme that means buying coffee for those who can t afford it
Image credits: cafevangoghldn When asked whether it has ever happened before that a customer is unaware that their restaurant is vegan, Steven said that it shouldn't happen. "It's on our menus, on our chalk boards, certainly on our website and social media profiles, and it's ALWAYS mentioned when people request a coffee, so we can work out what milk is wanted." In fact, "it's our USP… I guess some people are unhappy about that, and frankly that's just tough," he added. Image credits: cafevangoghldn "We take each review as we find it, and fortunately until porridge-milk-gate we've not had many poor reviews," Steven said and added: "At best they are an opportunity for us to take feedback and grow. At worst they are someone in a darkened room somewhere enraged that we do things differently at Café Van Gogh, and feeling the need to lash out." Image credits: cafevangoghldn "My background pre-café is working with people with very complex needs. I pick up a real sense of unhappiness from some of these people, they should likely get out more," the owner and the author of this viral response to the bad review concluded. And this is what people had to comment on the incident
But some pointed out the term vegan-friendly might have been confusing
Anyone can write on Bored Panda. Start writing! Follow Bored Panda on Google News! Follow us on Flipboard.com/@boredpanda! Share on Facebook Liucija Adomaite Liucija Adomaite Writer, BoredPanda staff Liucija Adomaite is a creative mind with years of experience in copywriting. She has a dynamic set of experiences from advertising, academia, and journalism. This time, she has set out on a journey to investigate the ways in which we communicate ideas on a large scale. Her current mission is to find a magic formula for how to make ideas, news, and other such things spread like a virus. Read more » Mindaugas Balčiauskas Mindaugas Balčiauskas Author, BoredPanda staff Photo editor at Bored Panda. Mindaugas has worked as a freelance photographer mainly doing events, product photography and has a recurring passion for macro photography. Read more » Show All Contributors Get the latest inspiring stories via our awesome iOS app! Download Bored Panda app! 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If you go to a vegan Cafe, expect vegan food and drinks. It's not bloody rocket science. I went to a Cafe once and when I looked at the menu it said in capital letters NO SUBSTITUTIONS, when I went to order, I asked for no butter on a toastie but they classed that as a substitution. You know what I did, I politely said "no worries, thank you" and left. See, simple. On another note, I love what they are doing with training people with disabilities and their pay it forward motto. Kudos to them. 21 21points reply Pat Bond Pat Bond Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) I applaud what they are trying to achieve. The website on the first page says: A Destination Here at Cafe Van Gogh we are famous for cooking delicious, plant-based dishes using seasonal ingredients. Our menu changes every 6-8 weeks so be sure to keep an eye on our instagram page to see what’s cooking. At the bottom of all the menus is: Everything is Vegan. Please advise staff of any allergies before ordering. None of the pictures in the article or on google maps would give you the impression that it's a vegan establishment just from the outside. Vincent Van Gogh however was a vegetarian, that clue may just be a bit too subtle. 3 3points reply Load More Replies... Caro Caro Caro Caro Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Hey Foxxy, you said it babe! 2 2points reply Rob Woodman Rob Woodman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago It’s the difference between vegan and vegan friendly...which is how they market. But if he could’ve left without paying even...hard to root for either. -2 -2points reply Rissie Rissie Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Now in all honesty, capital letters saying no substitutions would have been enough for me to leave. I don't like that attitude one bit. On the other hand, people with a beautiful attitude like the one's running this coffee shop can serve me an oat milk cappuccino anytime. -3 -3points reply Potato Potato Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Unfortunately, if they didn't put it in all caps and 500000 point font, people would complain that they didn't see it. 1 1point reply CatWoman312 CatWoman312 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Im not a vegan and if I saw “vegan friendly cafe” I would presume it was indeed a vegan cafe lol. I likely wouldn’t go, but if I did I wouldn’t be this pretentious. Obviously if you enter an establishment with a certain type of food/beverage you may or may not like it. Same idea if you enter say an Indian or Russian restaurant you might not like it, that’s your palettes fault, not the restaurant’s. 12 12points reply Vicky Z Vicky Z Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago To be fair vegan friendly doesn't mean exclusively vegan though.... i don't know if the place is advertised as vegan friendly or just vegan but if it's the first it's indeed misleading! However when they tell you the choices and you don't like them you just leave! You don't drink the coffee and then complain on TripAdvisor! 17 17points reply Load More Replies... Honu Honu Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Yes. If I had seen "vegan-friendly" on the sign, I would assume they would have both dairy milk and vegan plant milk. On being told they don't, I have an option to go to another cafe. It's London, not some small town. There are plenty of cafes. I'm sure there's another nearby. Now, if I decided to try the oat milk anyway and found I didn't like it, I would just chalk that up as a learning experience. I wouldn't give them a negative review. I certainly wouldn't think of myself or portray myself as a victim who was "forced" to drink something. I suppose it may be worthwhile to the business to point out that their sign was a bit confusing. I wouldn't use a negative review to do that, though. 4 4points reply Rob Woodman Rob Woodman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago How many downvotes will I get for agreeing almost word for word with Vicky’s reply? Well stated. -1 -1point reply WildBerry WildBerry Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Rob - why do you care about downvotes that much? Say what you think and if you agree with her, say it. Besides, no one downvoted her so..... 1 1point reply Rob Woodman Rob Woodman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago Because I went through a period where certain posters were stalking me simply to downvote. It’s tiresome when you lose 100-200 points in a day when you’ve made no comments. It’s always the same people—everything is freedom of speech until it’s speech they don’t like. And I’ve had comments where I agreed with someone and found my comment dv’d to hidden while the one I agreed with was +20 or more. -1 -1point reply Auntriarch Auntriarch Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago She nailed it. Have an upvote -1 -1point reply Goth mouse (they/them) Goth mouse (they/them) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) Im allergic to dairy and id love to have a coffee at a cafe, none of the ones in my area have anything dairy free! A fully dairy free cafe with no risk of cross contamination would be amazing ? 11 11points reply Load More Comments POST Foxxy (The Original) Foxxy (The Original) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) What did the customer expect for crying out loud. If you go to a vegan Cafe, expect vegan food and drinks. It's not bloody rocket science. I went to a Cafe once and when I looked at the menu it said in capital letters NO SUBSTITUTIONS, when I went to order, I asked for no butter on a toastie but they classed that as a substitution. You know what I did, I politely said "no worries, thank you" and left. See, simple. On another note, I love what they are doing with training people with disabilities and their pay it forward motto. Kudos to them. 21 21points reply Pat Bond Pat Bond Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) I applaud what they are trying to achieve. The website on the first page says: A Destination Here at Cafe Van Gogh we are famous for cooking delicious, plant-based dishes using seasonal ingredients. Our menu changes every 6-8 weeks so be sure to keep an eye on our instagram page to see what’s cooking. At the bottom of all the menus is: Everything is Vegan. Please advise staff of any allergies before ordering. None of the pictures in the article or on google maps would give you the impression that it's a vegan establishment just from the outside. Vincent Van Gogh however was a vegetarian, that clue may just be a bit too subtle. 3 3points reply Load More Replies... Caro Caro Caro Caro Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Hey Foxxy, you said it babe! 2 2points reply Rob Woodman Rob Woodman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago It’s the difference between vegan and vegan friendly...which is how they market. But if he could’ve left without paying even...hard to root for either. -2 -2points reply Rissie Rissie Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Now in all honesty, capital letters saying no substitutions would have been enough for me to leave. I don't like that attitude one bit. On the other hand, people with a beautiful attitude like the one's running this coffee shop can serve me an oat milk cappuccino anytime. -3 -3points reply Potato Potato Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Unfortunately, if they didn't put it in all caps and 500000 point font, people would complain that they didn't see it. 1 1point reply CatWoman312 CatWoman312 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Im not a vegan and if I saw “vegan friendly cafe” I would presume it was indeed a vegan cafe lol. I likely wouldn’t go, but if I did I wouldn’t be this pretentious. Obviously if you enter an establishment with a certain type of food/beverage you may or may not like it. Same idea if you enter say an Indian or Russian restaurant you might not like it, that’s your palettes fault, not the restaurant’s. 12 12points reply Vicky Z Vicky Z Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago To be fair vegan friendly doesn't mean exclusively vegan though.... i don't know if the place is advertised as vegan friendly or just vegan but if it's the first it's indeed misleading! However when they tell you the choices and you don't like them you just leave! You don't drink the coffee and then complain on TripAdvisor! 17 17points reply Load More Replies... Honu Honu Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Yes. If I had seen "vegan-friendly" on the sign, I would assume they would have both dairy milk and vegan plant milk. On being told they don't, I have an option to go to another cafe. It's London, not some small town. There are plenty of cafes. I'm sure there's another nearby. Now, if I decided to try the oat milk anyway and found I didn't like it, I would just chalk that up as a learning experience. I wouldn't give them a negative review. I certainly wouldn't think of myself or portray myself as a victim who was "forced" to drink something. I suppose it may be worthwhile to the business to point out that their sign was a bit confusing. I wouldn't use a negative review to do that, though. 4 4points reply Rob Woodman Rob Woodman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago How many downvotes will I get for agreeing almost word for word with Vicky’s reply? Well stated. -1 -1point reply WildBerry WildBerry Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Rob - why do you care about downvotes that much? Say what you think and if you agree with her, say it. Besides, no one downvoted her so..... 1 1point reply Rob Woodman Rob Woodman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago Because I went through a period where certain posters were stalking me simply to downvote. It’s tiresome when you lose 100-200 points in a day when you’ve made no comments. It’s always the same people—everything is freedom of speech until it’s speech they don’t like. And I’ve had comments where I agreed with someone and found my comment dv’d to hidden while the one I agreed with was +20 or more. -1 -1point reply Auntriarch Auntriarch Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago She nailed it. Have an upvote -1 -1point reply Goth mouse (they/them) Goth mouse (they/them) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) Im allergic to dairy and id love to have a coffee at a cafe, none of the ones in my area have anything dairy free! 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