TikToker Explains How The Korean Age System Differs From The International One
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BoredPanda staff You would think that something like calculating a person's age would be universal and the same in every culture. Turns out, it's not the case. Just as some cultures calculate in what year they are living differently, Koreans have their own way of determining how old someone is. A TikTok video explaining it went quite viral, exposing that people living in Western countries weren't aware of the Korean age system and it's just interesting how people from different parts of the world have different conceptualizations of the same thing. More info: TikTok
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That's two years of your life lost in less than 24 hours! 10 10points reply Azam Khan Azam Khan Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. I basically make about $6,000-$8,000 a month online. It’s enough to comfortably replace my old jobs income, especially considering I only work about 10-13 hours a week from home. I was amazed how easy it was after I tried it….. ===))> ???.???????.??? -13 -13points reply Load More Replies... Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago This is all well explained, but, as someone coming from a Croatian speaking country, living in Korea for over a decade, fluent in Korean, and graduated in linguistics, here is an input from me, that I do not claim to be the truth, but it certainly does make one think. When I first heard the "inclusion of your life inside the belly" explanation, I wasn't satisfied, because pregnancy lasts 9 months on average, not 12. Sure, people in the past probably knew less about medicine and biology, so you may be willing to close an eye on that, but they were no fools either. So, I wonder whether that one is really the reason, or if it was adopted later as some sort of official explanation for the English speaking world, that remained ingrained within culture and the minds of average Koreans. What I really think is going on here has a linguistic basis. In Korea, first of all, we distinguish between, for example, 33살 and 만31새. (Cont.) 9 9points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) The 살 one is what's explained in this article and it's the common colloquial way of expressing one's age. However, the 만x세 one starts from 0 and is birthday based, just like in the international age. Knowing the Korean grammar, that ㄹ ending in the 살 version seems like future tense to me. So maybe - and, again, this is not a claim from me, just a genuine question - that really means not "x years old", but "expected to be x years old" instead? Or "in their xth year of age"? Mathematically speaking, by international standards, when I say I'm 32, it means I've lived 32 years of my life, so technically now I'm living my 33rd year. (Cont.) 11 11points reply Load More Replies... Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) Meanwhile, in Croatia, we have a very common colloquial way of talking about one's age that means exactly what I described above, and, to a foreigner, who's still learning about our country, it can sound confusing, while, a Korean may think this is just the same as their own way. This is something I'd like to discuss with an actual expert. It's difficult to find these affinities on the Internet, and you can't just ask any Korean, especially not with a face like mine. It needs to be a professional of the Korean language and culture. Anyway, this is how I feel about the subject matter. (End) 6 6points reply Kristal Kristal Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I'm still processing of your eloquence in at least 3 different languages 5 5points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago *shyly looking down, smiling* 4, actually. I'm fluent in 4. (Croatian and Italian are both my native languages). Korean is my default language, since I live in Korea almost literally my whole adult life (moved here before my 21st birthday, back in June 2010). English, well, it's a necessity, but it's also a beautiful language of countries with some nice music, and entertainment culture. Was studying German in high school, but unfortunately, forgot most of it, so I not really able to handle a conversation. Would love to learn Japanese as well, although, I admit, I'm a bit lazy (for the writing part). 2 2points reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Ich machs mir da einfach - ich bin 25. Schon seit über zehn Jahren ... bisher konnte ich das immer behaupten und kam da durch mit ... auch wenns gelogen ist. 1 1point reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago meh... ich bin ajumma und stolz 2 2points reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Ajumma ... isn't that from 40 to 60 or so? Anyway ... I'm 38, but usually, the estimation doesn't exceed the 30. I always looked younger, and while this sucked when I was like 12, it now doesn't really bother me. I'm not that much into looks, after all, most of how I look is a result of laziety in that regard ... I combed my hair three times this year, I have the same hairstyle since 20 years or so, they practically fall into position without any doing to them ... uh, anyway, age is just the number telling the time that passed after your birth. It's not that important, is it? 1 1point reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) Me, I was born in August of 1989, you do the maths. Anyway, whether age is important or not depends on the context, for me personally, it's some sort of measurement for health related stuff. But I embraced my aging, as you say, it's not so much about looks, but about health. The ajumma part is a jokingly exaggeration that comes from this way of accepting one's own aging, and a running joke between my group of fellow "ajumma" friends. As for looks, I was always told I looked older, all my life back in Croatia. Then, before my 21st birthday, I moved to S. Korea, and suddenly everyone assumes I'm younger, all these years. Younger guys sometimes try hitting on me, without even taking in consideration that I might be in love with someone else, someone I'm legally bound to, you know, like, a spouse. 1 1point reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago ... these people suck. But, anyway ... older, younger ... health truly is some age related thing that you can ignore, but no one should do so. Doesn't have to be the opposite, of course, somewhere in the middle, it might be about right. In regard to looks ... the loss of hair will give my age away within the next decade. Weird, it started receding when I was 12, left and right of the center, above the forehead ("Geheimratsecken" in german), remained constant since I was 20 or so, and lately, it started getting a bit less again. Well, ... be it so. Maybe I should, as it may be the last chance, try a really cool hairstyle. My sister said I should. I think it could be funny, but then again ... waking up, washing my head and not having to do any about drying is pretty handy and stuff ... anyway, have a nice ... morning? Guess so... 1 1point reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Eheheh, thanks! I saw your reply in the morning indeed. Have a nice day/evening/night too! 1 1point reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Thanks, Daria! ... I still ... can't get around this - I hear your comment in my head as if Mrs. Morgendorffer reads it out loud....... 1 1point reply Om Om Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I have absolutely no knowledge about Korean or the culture, but the last sentence you propose makes sense, depending on the context they're using, whether is how many years you've been here, or what year of your life you're currently living, as if it was school grades. 0 0points reply ispeak catanese ispeak catanese Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Very interesting Daria, thank you for posting. Linguistics is deeply fascinating to me. 3 3points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Thank you as well! Linguistic and art have always been my biggest passion. 2 2points reply Claire Barton Claire Barton Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Agree but 1 point if a pregnancy is 40 weeks...is it really 9 months? Or is it 10 months? 0 0points reply fuggnuggins fuggnuggins Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Depends. Is it a leap year? 0 0points reply Geoffers Geoffers Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I'm sure the video must give a more fluid explanation which is simpler to follow (although I'll admit that I've not watched it, kind of lost interest), but as a written article this is really clunky and needs a lot of concentration. Had to really focus and a few parts I had to go back and read again to try and make some sort of sense of it all. The reward for wading through the whole thing is getting to the end and seeing the Korean age = (birth year) - (current year) +1 formula, meaning there was no point spending the time to try to understand the tables and explanations anyway. It's an interesting topic, and I'm sure the author has done her absolute best with it, just that not all videos translate well in to written articles is all. Thanks for coming to my miserable old git TEDx talk. 3 3points reply Load More Comments POST All's Gravy All's Gravy Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago If you are 1 at birth and born on December 31st, next day you turn 2? That's two years of your life lost in less than 24 hours! 10 10points reply Azam Khan Azam Khan Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. I basically make about $6,000-$8,000 a month online. It’s enough to comfortably replace my old jobs income, especially considering I only work about 10-13 hours a week from home. I was amazed how easy it was after I tried it….. ===))> ???.???????.??? -13 -13points reply Load More Replies... Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago This is all well explained, but, as someone coming from a Croatian speaking country, living in Korea for over a decade, fluent in Korean, and graduated in linguistics, here is an input from me, that I do not claim to be the truth, but it certainly does make one think. When I first heard the "inclusion of your life inside the belly" explanation, I wasn't satisfied, because pregnancy lasts 9 months on average, not 12. Sure, people in the past probably knew less about medicine and biology, so you may be willing to close an eye on that, but they were no fools either. So, I wonder whether that one is really the reason, or if it was adopted later as some sort of official explanation for the English speaking world, that remained ingrained within culture and the minds of average Koreans. What I really think is going on here has a linguistic basis. In Korea, first of all, we distinguish between, for example, 33살 and 만31새. (Cont.) 9 9points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) The 살 one is what's explained in this article and it's the common colloquial way of expressing one's age. However, the 만x세 one starts from 0 and is birthday based, just like in the international age. Knowing the Korean grammar, that ㄹ ending in the 살 version seems like future tense to me. So maybe - and, again, this is not a claim from me, just a genuine question - that really means not "x years old", but "expected to be x years old" instead? Or "in their xth year of age"? Mathematically speaking, by international standards, when I say I'm 32, it means I've lived 32 years of my life, so technically now I'm living my 33rd year. (Cont.) 11 11points reply Load More Replies... Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) Meanwhile, in Croatia, we have a very common colloquial way of talking about one's age that means exactly what I described above, and, to a foreigner, who's still learning about our country, it can sound confusing, while, a Korean may think this is just the same as their own way. This is something I'd like to discuss with an actual expert. It's difficult to find these affinities on the Internet, and you can't just ask any Korean, especially not with a face like mine. It needs to be a professional of the Korean language and culture. Anyway, this is how I feel about the subject matter. (End) 6 6points reply Kristal Kristal Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I'm still processing of your eloquence in at least 3 different languages 5 5points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago *shyly looking down, smiling* 4, actually. I'm fluent in 4. (Croatian and Italian are both my native languages). Korean is my default language, since I live in Korea almost literally my whole adult life (moved here before my 21st birthday, back in June 2010). English, well, it's a necessity, but it's also a beautiful language of countries with some nice music, and entertainment culture. Was studying German in high school, but unfortunately, forgot most of it, so I not really able to handle a conversation. Would love to learn Japanese as well, although, I admit, I'm a bit lazy (for the writing part). 2 2points reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Ich machs mir da einfach - ich bin 25. Schon seit über zehn Jahren ... bisher konnte ich das immer behaupten und kam da durch mit ... auch wenns gelogen ist. 1 1point reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago meh... ich bin ajumma und stolz 2 2points reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Ajumma ... isn't that from 40 to 60 or so? Anyway ... I'm 38, but usually, the estimation doesn't exceed the 30. I always looked younger, and while this sucked when I was like 12, it now doesn't really bother me. I'm not that much into looks, after all, most of how I look is a result of laziety in that regard ... I combed my hair three times this year, I have the same hairstyle since 20 years or so, they practically fall into position without any doing to them ... uh, anyway, age is just the number telling the time that passed after your birth. It's not that important, is it? 1 1point reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) Me, I was born in August of 1989, you do the maths. Anyway, whether age is important or not depends on the context, for me personally, it's some sort of measurement for health related stuff. But I embraced my aging, as you say, it's not so much about looks, but about health. The ajumma part is a jokingly exaggeration that comes from this way of accepting one's own aging, and a running joke between my group of fellow "ajumma" friends. As for looks, I was always told I looked older, all my life back in Croatia. Then, before my 21st birthday, I moved to S. Korea, and suddenly everyone assumes I'm younger, all these years. Younger guys sometimes try hitting on me, without even taking in consideration that I might be in love with someone else, someone I'm legally bound to, you know, like, a spouse. 1 1point reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago ... these people suck. But, anyway ... older, younger ... health truly is some age related thing that you can ignore, but no one should do so. Doesn't have to be the opposite, of course, somewhere in the middle, it might be about right. In regard to looks ... the loss of hair will give my age away within the next decade. Weird, it started receding when I was 12, left and right of the center, above the forehead ("Geheimratsecken" in german), remained constant since I was 20 or so, and lately, it started getting a bit less again. Well, ... be it so. Maybe I should, as it may be the last chance, try a really cool hairstyle. My sister said I should. I think it could be funny, but then again ... waking up, washing my head and not having to do any about drying is pretty handy and stuff ... anyway, have a nice ... morning? Guess so... 1 1point reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Eheheh, thanks! I saw your reply in the morning indeed. Have a nice day/evening/night too! 1 1point reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Thanks, Daria! ... I still ... can't get around this - I hear your comment in my head as if Mrs. Morgendorffer reads it out loud....... 1 1point reply Om Om Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I have absolutely no knowledge about Korean or the culture, but the last sentence you propose makes sense, depending on the context they're using, whether is how many years you've been here, or what year of your life you're currently living, as if it was school grades. 0 0points reply ispeak catanese ispeak catanese Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Very interesting Daria, thank you for posting. Linguistics is deeply fascinating to me. 3 3points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Thank you as well! Linguistic and art have always been my biggest passion. 2 2points reply Claire Barton Claire Barton Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Agree but 1 point if a pregnancy is 40 weeks...is it really 9 months? Or is it 10 months? 0 0points reply fuggnuggins fuggnuggins Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Depends. Is it a leap year? 0 0points reply Geoffers Geoffers Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I'm sure the video must give a more fluid explanation which is simpler to follow (although I'll admit that I've not watched it, kind of lost interest), but as a written article this is really clunky and needs a lot of concentration. Had to really focus and a few parts I had to go back and read again to try and make some sort of sense of it all. The reward for wading through the whole thing is getting to the end and seeing the Korean age = (birth year) - (current year) +1 formula, meaning there was no point spending the time to try to understand the tables and explanations anyway. It's an interesting topic, and I'm sure the author has done her absolute best with it, just that not all videos translate well in to written articles is all. Thanks for coming to my miserable old git TEDx talk. 3 3points reply Load More Comments Popular on Bored Panda I Used AI To See What These 23 Popular Cartoon Characters Would Look Like In Real Life 30 Y.O. 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TikToker Explains How The Korean Age System Differs From The International One
Jurgita DominauskaitėBoredPanda staff You would think that something like calculating a person's age would be universal and the same in every culture. Turns out, it's not the case. Just as some cultures calculate in what year they are living differently, Koreans have their own way of determining how old someone is. A TikTok video explaining it went quite viral, exposing that people living in Western countries weren't aware of the Korean age system and it's just interesting how people from different parts of the world have different conceptualizations of the same thing. More info: TikTok
Turns out there is more than one way to calculate your age and two of the countries doing it differently are South Korea and North Korea
Image credits: fgg1031 The TikTok page kaboodaofficial is dedicated to educating people about Korea, teaching them the language, and explaining the curious differences they have, like their age calculation system. The video that has the most views on the page is the one explaining how Koreans calculate their age. It has 512k views and over 110k likes.Age is very important in Korean culture as it determines how people will address one another
Image credits: kaboodaofficial The narrator begins by saying that in Korean culture, age is very important. Often, when you meet Koreans, one of the first questions they ask is your age because they want to establish the hierarchy as there are different ways embedded in the language itself how you address people who are older or younger than you. The TikTok page kaboodaofficial explains this in the second part of the Korean age series. They immediately say that you never address an older person by name and give examples of how you can address them.One of the Korean age differences from the international age system is that babies that are just born are considered to be 1 year old
Image credits: kaboodaofficialAnd people turn 1 year older not on the day they were born but on January 1st instead
Image credits: kaboodaofficial So how is the Korean age system different from the international one? Firstly, when you are born, you're already 1 year old because Koreans take into consideration the 9 months that a person lived in the womb and round them up to 1 year. Secondly, they consider a person to be 1 year older not on the day they were born, but on January 1st. So every person in the nation gets older on New Year's Day. Koreans are aware of the international age and it is actually used in such contexts as courts, hospitals, and public offices. However, in their daily lives, they use Korean age. Image credits: kaboodaofficialBecause of the Korean age calculation system depending on what time of the year it is people would be 1 or 2 years older than their actual age
Image credits: kaboodaofficial If you want to know how old you would be in Korea, kaboodaofficial provides an example. A person born on October 10th, 2010 would be 10 years old now, in September of 2021, because their birthday hasn't passed yet. But in Korea, that person would be 12 years old (in the video, the narrator made a mistake and addressed it in the comments). When that person celebrates their birthday, they would be 11 years old in Western countries, but in Korea, they would still be 12 years old. Then they would turn 13 on January 1st. In the table, there is a formula for how you would know how old you are in Korea. So, if you have already celebrated your birthday, just add 1 to your current age and if your birthday has not yet passed, add 2 to your age. Image credits: bryan…In the video below you can listen to the full explanation
@kaboodaofficial🇰🇷How old are you in Korean age? ##age ##birthday ##todayyearsold ##koreanculture ##korea ##internationalage ##forfun ##education ##foryou ##fyp♬ Stylish Jazz HipHop – Future Oriented Triad Video credits: kaboodaofficialThe Korean age system is used in both Koreas and it has been used longer than the two states have been separated
In the comments people pointed out another way to calculate your Korean age and it may be less confusing
If you are confused just like other people were in the comments when they first found out about Korean age, there is a simpler way to calculate it. Just subtract your birth date from the year we are in and add 1 (since you are already 1 year old at birth). Also, an interesting fact to know is that this system is used both in South and North Korea as they separated from each other not such a long time ago. The origins of this calculating system are not very clear but it is clear that it goes way back.It is important to point out that birthdays are also a significant date it s just that they turn 1 year older on New Year s and don t wait for their birthday
People in the comments had many questions as the Korean age system is so foreign to us. The TikToker explained that even though everyone ages at the same time, birthdays are still celebrated, they just don't wait for that date to add 1 year.Even if you are born a few days before New Year s when January 1st strikes you become 2 years old
There were also people giving examples of their own age and the TikToker let them know if they had calculated correctly. Turns out, a baby barely a week old is 2 years old in Korea. Other people just gave up, as they found the math too confusing and complicated.It can get quite confusing as we are not used to this system and can seem like a task requiring advanced math skills
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That's two years of your life lost in less than 24 hours! 10 10points reply Azam Khan Azam Khan Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. I basically make about $6,000-$8,000 a month online. It’s enough to comfortably replace my old jobs income, especially considering I only work about 10-13 hours a week from home. I was amazed how easy it was after I tried it….. ===))> ???.???????.??? -13 -13points reply Load More Replies... Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago This is all well explained, but, as someone coming from a Croatian speaking country, living in Korea for over a decade, fluent in Korean, and graduated in linguistics, here is an input from me, that I do not claim to be the truth, but it certainly does make one think. When I first heard the "inclusion of your life inside the belly" explanation, I wasn't satisfied, because pregnancy lasts 9 months on average, not 12. Sure, people in the past probably knew less about medicine and biology, so you may be willing to close an eye on that, but they were no fools either. So, I wonder whether that one is really the reason, or if it was adopted later as some sort of official explanation for the English speaking world, that remained ingrained within culture and the minds of average Koreans. What I really think is going on here has a linguistic basis. In Korea, first of all, we distinguish between, for example, 33살 and 만31새. (Cont.) 9 9points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) The 살 one is what's explained in this article and it's the common colloquial way of expressing one's age. However, the 만x세 one starts from 0 and is birthday based, just like in the international age. Knowing the Korean grammar, that ㄹ ending in the 살 version seems like future tense to me. So maybe - and, again, this is not a claim from me, just a genuine question - that really means not "x years old", but "expected to be x years old" instead? Or "in their xth year of age"? Mathematically speaking, by international standards, when I say I'm 32, it means I've lived 32 years of my life, so technically now I'm living my 33rd year. (Cont.) 11 11points reply Load More Replies... Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) Meanwhile, in Croatia, we have a very common colloquial way of talking about one's age that means exactly what I described above, and, to a foreigner, who's still learning about our country, it can sound confusing, while, a Korean may think this is just the same as their own way. This is something I'd like to discuss with an actual expert. It's difficult to find these affinities on the Internet, and you can't just ask any Korean, especially not with a face like mine. It needs to be a professional of the Korean language and culture. Anyway, this is how I feel about the subject matter. (End) 6 6points reply Kristal Kristal Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I'm still processing of your eloquence in at least 3 different languages 5 5points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago *shyly looking down, smiling* 4, actually. I'm fluent in 4. (Croatian and Italian are both my native languages). Korean is my default language, since I live in Korea almost literally my whole adult life (moved here before my 21st birthday, back in June 2010). English, well, it's a necessity, but it's also a beautiful language of countries with some nice music, and entertainment culture. Was studying German in high school, but unfortunately, forgot most of it, so I not really able to handle a conversation. Would love to learn Japanese as well, although, I admit, I'm a bit lazy (for the writing part). 2 2points reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Ich machs mir da einfach - ich bin 25. Schon seit über zehn Jahren ... bisher konnte ich das immer behaupten und kam da durch mit ... auch wenns gelogen ist. 1 1point reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago meh... ich bin ajumma und stolz 2 2points reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Ajumma ... isn't that from 40 to 60 or so? Anyway ... I'm 38, but usually, the estimation doesn't exceed the 30. I always looked younger, and while this sucked when I was like 12, it now doesn't really bother me. I'm not that much into looks, after all, most of how I look is a result of laziety in that regard ... I combed my hair three times this year, I have the same hairstyle since 20 years or so, they practically fall into position without any doing to them ... uh, anyway, age is just the number telling the time that passed after your birth. It's not that important, is it? 1 1point reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) Me, I was born in August of 1989, you do the maths. Anyway, whether age is important or not depends on the context, for me personally, it's some sort of measurement for health related stuff. But I embraced my aging, as you say, it's not so much about looks, but about health. The ajumma part is a jokingly exaggeration that comes from this way of accepting one's own aging, and a running joke between my group of fellow "ajumma" friends. As for looks, I was always told I looked older, all my life back in Croatia. Then, before my 21st birthday, I moved to S. Korea, and suddenly everyone assumes I'm younger, all these years. Younger guys sometimes try hitting on me, without even taking in consideration that I might be in love with someone else, someone I'm legally bound to, you know, like, a spouse. 1 1point reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago ... these people suck. But, anyway ... older, younger ... health truly is some age related thing that you can ignore, but no one should do so. Doesn't have to be the opposite, of course, somewhere in the middle, it might be about right. In regard to looks ... the loss of hair will give my age away within the next decade. Weird, it started receding when I was 12, left and right of the center, above the forehead ("Geheimratsecken" in german), remained constant since I was 20 or so, and lately, it started getting a bit less again. Well, ... be it so. Maybe I should, as it may be the last chance, try a really cool hairstyle. My sister said I should. I think it could be funny, but then again ... waking up, washing my head and not having to do any about drying is pretty handy and stuff ... anyway, have a nice ... morning? Guess so... 1 1point reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Eheheh, thanks! I saw your reply in the morning indeed. Have a nice day/evening/night too! 1 1point reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Thanks, Daria! ... I still ... can't get around this - I hear your comment in my head as if Mrs. Morgendorffer reads it out loud....... 1 1point reply Om Om Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I have absolutely no knowledge about Korean or the culture, but the last sentence you propose makes sense, depending on the context they're using, whether is how many years you've been here, or what year of your life you're currently living, as if it was school grades. 0 0points reply ispeak catanese ispeak catanese Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Very interesting Daria, thank you for posting. Linguistics is deeply fascinating to me. 3 3points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Thank you as well! Linguistic and art have always been my biggest passion. 2 2points reply Claire Barton Claire Barton Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Agree but 1 point if a pregnancy is 40 weeks...is it really 9 months? Or is it 10 months? 0 0points reply fuggnuggins fuggnuggins Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Depends. Is it a leap year? 0 0points reply Geoffers Geoffers Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I'm sure the video must give a more fluid explanation which is simpler to follow (although I'll admit that I've not watched it, kind of lost interest), but as a written article this is really clunky and needs a lot of concentration. Had to really focus and a few parts I had to go back and read again to try and make some sort of sense of it all. The reward for wading through the whole thing is getting to the end and seeing the Korean age = (birth year) - (current year) +1 formula, meaning there was no point spending the time to try to understand the tables and explanations anyway. It's an interesting topic, and I'm sure the author has done her absolute best with it, just that not all videos translate well in to written articles is all. Thanks for coming to my miserable old git TEDx talk. 3 3points reply Load More Comments POST All's Gravy All's Gravy Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago If you are 1 at birth and born on December 31st, next day you turn 2? That's two years of your life lost in less than 24 hours! 10 10points reply Azam Khan Azam Khan Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. I basically make about $6,000-$8,000 a month online. It’s enough to comfortably replace my old jobs income, especially considering I only work about 10-13 hours a week from home. I was amazed how easy it was after I tried it….. ===))> ???.???????.??? -13 -13points reply Load More Replies... Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago This is all well explained, but, as someone coming from a Croatian speaking country, living in Korea for over a decade, fluent in Korean, and graduated in linguistics, here is an input from me, that I do not claim to be the truth, but it certainly does make one think. When I first heard the "inclusion of your life inside the belly" explanation, I wasn't satisfied, because pregnancy lasts 9 months on average, not 12. Sure, people in the past probably knew less about medicine and biology, so you may be willing to close an eye on that, but they were no fools either. So, I wonder whether that one is really the reason, or if it was adopted later as some sort of official explanation for the English speaking world, that remained ingrained within culture and the minds of average Koreans. What I really think is going on here has a linguistic basis. In Korea, first of all, we distinguish between, for example, 33살 and 만31새. (Cont.) 9 9points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) The 살 one is what's explained in this article and it's the common colloquial way of expressing one's age. However, the 만x세 one starts from 0 and is birthday based, just like in the international age. Knowing the Korean grammar, that ㄹ ending in the 살 version seems like future tense to me. So maybe - and, again, this is not a claim from me, just a genuine question - that really means not "x years old", but "expected to be x years old" instead? Or "in their xth year of age"? Mathematically speaking, by international standards, when I say I'm 32, it means I've lived 32 years of my life, so technically now I'm living my 33rd year. (Cont.) 11 11points reply Load More Replies... Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) Meanwhile, in Croatia, we have a very common colloquial way of talking about one's age that means exactly what I described above, and, to a foreigner, who's still learning about our country, it can sound confusing, while, a Korean may think this is just the same as their own way. This is something I'd like to discuss with an actual expert. It's difficult to find these affinities on the Internet, and you can't just ask any Korean, especially not with a face like mine. It needs to be a professional of the Korean language and culture. Anyway, this is how I feel about the subject matter. (End) 6 6points reply Kristal Kristal Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I'm still processing of your eloquence in at least 3 different languages 5 5points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago *shyly looking down, smiling* 4, actually. I'm fluent in 4. (Croatian and Italian are both my native languages). Korean is my default language, since I live in Korea almost literally my whole adult life (moved here before my 21st birthday, back in June 2010). English, well, it's a necessity, but it's also a beautiful language of countries with some nice music, and entertainment culture. Was studying German in high school, but unfortunately, forgot most of it, so I not really able to handle a conversation. Would love to learn Japanese as well, although, I admit, I'm a bit lazy (for the writing part). 2 2points reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Ich machs mir da einfach - ich bin 25. Schon seit über zehn Jahren ... bisher konnte ich das immer behaupten und kam da durch mit ... auch wenns gelogen ist. 1 1point reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago meh... ich bin ajumma und stolz 2 2points reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Ajumma ... isn't that from 40 to 60 or so? Anyway ... I'm 38, but usually, the estimation doesn't exceed the 30. I always looked younger, and while this sucked when I was like 12, it now doesn't really bother me. I'm not that much into looks, after all, most of how I look is a result of laziety in that regard ... I combed my hair three times this year, I have the same hairstyle since 20 years or so, they practically fall into position without any doing to them ... uh, anyway, age is just the number telling the time that passed after your birth. It's not that important, is it? 1 1point reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) Me, I was born in August of 1989, you do the maths. Anyway, whether age is important or not depends on the context, for me personally, it's some sort of measurement for health related stuff. But I embraced my aging, as you say, it's not so much about looks, but about health. The ajumma part is a jokingly exaggeration that comes from this way of accepting one's own aging, and a running joke between my group of fellow "ajumma" friends. As for looks, I was always told I looked older, all my life back in Croatia. Then, before my 21st birthday, I moved to S. Korea, and suddenly everyone assumes I'm younger, all these years. Younger guys sometimes try hitting on me, without even taking in consideration that I might be in love with someone else, someone I'm legally bound to, you know, like, a spouse. 1 1point reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago ... these people suck. But, anyway ... older, younger ... health truly is some age related thing that you can ignore, but no one should do so. Doesn't have to be the opposite, of course, somewhere in the middle, it might be about right. In regard to looks ... the loss of hair will give my age away within the next decade. Weird, it started receding when I was 12, left and right of the center, above the forehead ("Geheimratsecken" in german), remained constant since I was 20 or so, and lately, it started getting a bit less again. Well, ... be it so. Maybe I should, as it may be the last chance, try a really cool hairstyle. My sister said I should. I think it could be funny, but then again ... waking up, washing my head and not having to do any about drying is pretty handy and stuff ... anyway, have a nice ... morning? Guess so... 1 1point reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Eheheh, thanks! I saw your reply in the morning indeed. Have a nice day/evening/night too! 1 1point reply DC DC Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Thanks, Daria! ... I still ... can't get around this - I hear your comment in my head as if Mrs. Morgendorffer reads it out loud....... 1 1point reply Om Om Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I have absolutely no knowledge about Korean or the culture, but the last sentence you propose makes sense, depending on the context they're using, whether is how many years you've been here, or what year of your life you're currently living, as if it was school grades. 0 0points reply ispeak catanese ispeak catanese Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Very interesting Daria, thank you for posting. Linguistics is deeply fascinating to me. 3 3points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Thank you as well! Linguistic and art have always been my biggest passion. 2 2points reply Claire Barton Claire Barton Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Agree but 1 point if a pregnancy is 40 weeks...is it really 9 months? Or is it 10 months? 0 0points reply fuggnuggins fuggnuggins Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Depends. Is it a leap year? 0 0points reply Geoffers Geoffers Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I'm sure the video must give a more fluid explanation which is simpler to follow (although I'll admit that I've not watched it, kind of lost interest), but as a written article this is really clunky and needs a lot of concentration. Had to really focus and a few parts I had to go back and read again to try and make some sort of sense of it all. The reward for wading through the whole thing is getting to the end and seeing the Korean age = (birth year) - (current year) +1 formula, meaning there was no point spending the time to try to understand the tables and explanations anyway. It's an interesting topic, and I'm sure the author has done her absolute best with it, just that not all videos translate well in to written articles is all. Thanks for coming to my miserable old git TEDx talk. 3 3points reply Load More Comments Popular on Bored Panda I Used AI To See What These 23 Popular Cartoon Characters Would Look Like In Real Life 30 Y.O. 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