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Dogs Experience Care And Love For The First Time After Being Saved From A Meat Farm Interview
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Pro member Nowadays a lot of people view pets such as dogs and cats as their best friends and most loyal companions. For most people, even the very thought of eating their pets sounds disgusting and simply speaking-amoral. However, some countries in the world, especially in Asia, are still passively practicing cruel businesses such as dog farms. Unfortunately, most Asian countries (even in the year 2021) do not have straightly set laws forbidding the slaughter of dogs for food, but as of recently, a lot of new measures and regulations have been put in place trying to prevent such unethical farms from actively existing and exploiting animals for meat in brutal ways. There are also a lot of active organizations that are doing life-saving work for animals all across the world, and one of them is known as NGO HSI (Humane Society International). As of recently, Humane Society International has been actively working in South Korea by running a campaign and trying to save over 70 canines from a dog farm. More info: Facebook Instagram hsi.org Over 70 dogs that were found suffering on a dog farm in South Korea were recently saved from slaughter by NGO HSI Humane Society International
Image credits: Humane Society International We contacted Nara Kim, a campaign manager at HSI/Korea, and asked her to tell us the story: "My name is Nara Kim and I am the End Dog Meat campaign manager for Humane Society International/Korea in Seoul. The farm closure in this story took place in May 2020 and at the time was our 16th dog farm closure. HSI/Korea has been involved in five more dog farm rescues since then, the most recent of which was in August 2021 when we helped the local authorities close a dog farm on Jindo Island. You can see the list of our dog farm rescues here. We usually find out about our farms from other dog farmers with whom we have worked in the past. Dog farmers often talk to each other and word spreads that HSI/Korea has helped farmers move on and start a new life, and so usually they will ask them to make an introduction so that we can help them too. Other times, we will be approached by one of our partner animal groups in Korea for help in rescuing dogs from a farm that has agreed to close. We never try to persuade a dog farmer to close, we don't need to because so many of them are keen to leave the industry." The staff of HSI that were on site found dog breeds such as huskies golden retrievers poodles Chihuahuas Pomeranians and many more
Image credits: Humane Society International The animals were found in rows of dilapidated cages and surrounded by food leftovers various garbage and even their own waste
Image credits: Humane Society International Nara Kim HSI s consultant in South Korea shared in the press conference that the dogs were desperate to be noticed
Image credits: Humane Society International Here is how the process of closing a meat farm works: "Closing a dog meat farm is a huge operation that requires a lot of planning and preparation. As most of the dogs will need to be flown overseas to find new homes (because dog adoption is still not really established in South Korea yet), that means we need to visit the farm many times to vaccinate all the dogs, quarantine them, and give them all the health checks required for international travel. I will visit the farm many times with our vet to do this, and while they are in quarantine, we make sure that the dogs are well looked after and immediately start receiving proper nutritional food. We also need to make all the flight arrangements for all the dogs, order the travel crates for all the dogs, and find partner shelters in the United States, Canada, or the United Kingdom that have places to take the dogs and help us look for adoptive families. HSI also often sets up our own really big temporary shelter in Canada and the USA to take a big proportion of the dogs where they will receive specialist rehabilitation and care. The actual closure itself can take anything from one day to a week depending on the size of the farm, but it's always a really early morning start to the day to arrive on the farm in time to calmly take each dog from their cages and place them in travel crates and load them on the truck ready to drive to the airport. Removing terrified dogs from their farm cages requires patience and skill, and it's something I have done now for many years so I think I am pretty good at reading the dogs' body language and helping them conquer their fear. Once at the airport, there is lots of paperwork to do before they can fly, but once they are on their way, I feel a mixture of relief and happiness, but also sadness because I become so bonded with the dogs and I miss them very much. But I know that they are going to have happy lives full of love and kindness." Some of the dogs were desperately jumping for me to notice them and offer some affection while others hid at the back of their cages in fear
Image credits: Humane Society International Nara tells us what the dogs mentioned in this article are doing now: "The dogs from our 16th farm are now in adoptive homes in the USA and Canada, so I know that they are living their best lives and hopefully will soon forget the horrible experience of being on a dog meat farm." Nakseon Kim who is the owner of the said farm said that he had been running this business for over 40 years but was concerned over the fact that the business itself had no future going forward
Image credits: Humane Society International He allowed the HSI staff to take over and as of now has left the dog farming behind and has been working as a farmer by growing vegetables
Image credits: Humane Society International Nara shares the most difficult part of caring for animals saved from a meat farm: "Some of the dogs recover remarkably quickly considering the suffering and deprivation on the farms. But others need more time to overcome their fear of people, and so that's where we spend time with them to rehabilitate them. Some of the dogs we find on every farm are abandoned pets so they can probably adapt back into a family life more easily. But most of the dogs have spent their whole lives in a wire cage and so need help to learn how to be a dog. They don't know how to lie down on a soft bed, they don't know what a TV is or a lawnmower, or a washing machine, or how to play, so everything for them is totally new and probably quite frightening. That can be difficult and hard work, but it's also incredibly rewarding to watch these dogs come out of their shell and embrace their new lives." Nakseon told HSI staff that although he entered the business believing he d make good money
Image credits: Humane Society International Here's what Nara thinks of the future of meat farms: "I do think that it's the beginning of the end for dog meat farms in South Korea. The pace of change in my life is already amazing, even in the past five or so years, more and more farms are closing because so few people now want to eat dog meat. It will be the best thing for the dogs but also for the farmers when all dog farms close because it's a dying industry." It hasn t really worked out that way I earn nothing from this dog farm and pressure from the government is increasing so it s not a good business at all
Image credits: Humane Society International Nara answered what surprised her most about this story: "I am always surprised that people seem to think that people in South Korea like to eat dogs because it really couldn't be further from the truth. Most people don't eat dogs and would be horrified at the thought, actually. I think that's a real misconception of the West. There is a big campaign here in South Korea to end the dog meat industry and I think it's important that people realize that." For the past few years a majority of South Koreans have started viewing dogs as companions rather than food therefore the demand for dog meat has been drastically decreasing
Image credits: Humane Society International A new set of laws and regulations against dog farms have also been released by the government
Image credits: Humane Society International Nara tells us more about their organization: "Humane Society International is a global animal protection organization with offices and programs in many countries around the world such as Brazil, Mexico, India, Indonesia, Canada, and of course here in South Korea, and we work on many different issues such as ending the fur trade, trophy hunting, factory farming, and dog and cat meat trade across Asia. In South Korea, HSI has been working since 2015 and here we focus on two main issues of the dog meat industry and also ending animal experiments and replacing animals in laboratories with cutting-edge non-animal research techniques and technologies. I really like HSI's approach because we are very solutions-led, we don't identify the many problems for animals, we devise solutions to end the suffering. Our dog meat farm closure program is a good example of that." There were rescue operations happening in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic back in 2020 this one included
Image credits: Humane Society International Nara opens up about why it's important to care for animals: "I think it says a lot about a society when it helps the most vulnerable and least powerful, whether that's people or animals. Animals can't advocate for themselves and cannot speak but they surely suffer and so they need us more than ever to speak up for them. Showing compassion for other creatures with whom we share this planet, and striving to live lives that cause the least harm to others, is one of the central pillars of humanity, I think, and so I'm proud to be able to play my part through my work at HSI." The staff working with the dogs has faced some delays when it came to relocating them
Image credits: Humane Society International The initial plan was to move dogs to the US and Canada where they could get proper rehabilitation and get a second chance at finding their forever homes
Image credits: Humane Society International Here is some advice for those who want to care for animals: "The best advice is to start with your own life because you have the most control over that. Everything we do in the way we live our lives has the capacity to impact animals positively or negatively. Something as simple as the food we choose to eat can be the difference between life and death for animals on factory farms, so choose plant-based options. Replacing meat and dairy with vegan options is increasingly easy these days, including in South Korea, and it's also better for our health and our planet. You can also replace animal products in your wardrobe and bathrooms, choosing cruelty-free fabrics instead of fur and leather, and selecting beauty products that haven't been tested on animals. And sharing our homes with a pet can be really wonderful, but buying a puppy or kitten from a pet store is supporting the cruel pet breeding industry, so consider adopting a shelter cat or dog instead. We can all help shelters by supporting their work, donating our time as volunteer dog walkers, for instance, and promoting the idea of adoption." Thankfully that s exactly what happened and now the dogs are happy and safe in their forever homes
Image credits: Humane Society International The dogs are regularly receiving full veterinary check-ups to make sure they do not face another day of suffering they are loved and cared for for the first time in their lives
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I’m happy that they were rescued. 28 28points reply Horatio Jay Horatio Jay Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago What about all the cows, pigs, and chickens of the world? -3 -3points reply Load More Replies... Ian Kelly Ian Kelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Sure what about them, we’ll they weren’t the focus of this article for one. For another what about the poor grass or trees or bushes, they feel pain too. Also dogs eat meat, saving one dog condemns dozens if not hundreds of other animals to die for it to live. 3 3points reply The Coated Dev The Coated Dev Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I mean, that's how nature works. Creatures rely on others to survive. The pig eats grass, the wolf eats the pig. Humans even though we have created a artificial environment still rely on the things around us to survive. Such as wheat, meat, milk, fruit, vegetables, etc. 4 4points reply Ian Kelly Ian Kelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Milk is inherently unnatural, and pretty much an abomination 0 0points reply Jos Tiguidou Jos Tiguidou Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Don't open that can of worm TCD. You'll never hear the end of it. Anyways HJ's response is akin to the whole "BLM" movement vs the "All lives matter" folks. Totally missing the point. -3 -3points reply Ian Kelly Ian Kelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago No idea why you were downvoted, you’re totally right 1 1point reply Abhinc Abhinc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) maybe this opinion won't be very popular but ... IMO the problem is not about eating dog meat or not. this is a cultural topic and no one should judge. just imagine what people in India would think about you when you eat a burger ... in France we eat frog legs and oysters and snails and almost everybody else find it disgusting. i get it !! all countries have weird food habits that we don't understand and get disgusted by. some countries eat fried tarentulas or guinea pigs. don't get me wrong !! i would clearly never eat dog meat. but i know that i wouldn't do it for cultural reasons. for me the most concerning part of this is the condition these animals live in !! this is terrible. but once again who are we to judge !? it's not much better when we think about chicken farming in western countries. so yeah !! animal cruelty is a very important topic but before judging other countries maybe we should look at ourselves and what we conveniently accept for ourselves !! i'm still really glad those dogs were rescued 17 17points reply Eunice Probert Eunice Probert Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Foot binding in China was a cultural practise, female genital mutilation is a cultural practise in some countries. Would you argue that they should go on, just because it's a custom? Thankfully the foot binding custom ended. Other disgusting practises need to end, whether they are tied to a particular country or not. 43 43points reply Load More Replies... Abhinc Abhinc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) but let me clarify and make it simpler ... the conditions those dogs lived in are TERRIBLE and totally UNACCEPTABLE. i fully agree !! and this has to stop as you said !!! but everywhere and for every animal species. is it that different in our countries ? ever saw the way chicken are treated in our huge industrial farms ?? it's about animal being mistreated. not only or especially those dogs. it's about farming techniques in general. not only in Korea. i'm just saying i hope people who are offended (legitimately once again !!) by this would be offended by other situations too. because they should. it's a global issue. this situation is just one among many others unfortunately. and it would be totally dishonest and totally useless to say this is a scandal but accepting the way we treat animals in our western countries. if we want to adress this topic honestly, change it and solve it we can't let emotions overcome rational thinking. dogs are not more important than chicken or cows just because for us they are pets and our occidental point of view on what can be eaten or not is not more valuable than theirs. that's all i'm saying !! i'll just add that animal cruelty concerns tests on animals for cosmetics or drugs ... we don't discuss these points so much ... addressing only a part of the problem is dishonest and won't solve it 17 17points reply The Coated Dev The Coated Dev Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago You know the conditions that mass meat producing companies put their animals in are also horrible. 4 4points reply Lauren Curry Lauren Curry Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Also, let me mention that in South Korea, they do not eat dog meat because they have to. It's because they want to. I have a gorgeous, sweet and intelligent Golden Retriever that came from South Korea Meat Trade. She was rescued by another International group that rescue the dogs. This particular meat plant only raised Golden Retrievers because it was said that Golden's are a gourmet meat! Another thing people need to know is that in 2016 when my sweet girl was rescued, they believed in a certain type of torture to these animals before they were killed. They believed that the reason the meat was do good is because they had a practice on tenderizing the meat before the animal was killed. They hung them upside down and beat them. South Korea had/has the worst reputation for their practices. I can't say what they do now because I have heard that these practices are what caused some of the meat plants to be shut down. 4 4points reply kowi_gal kowi_gal Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) @Lauren Curry I think your comment is a little bit misleading.. a very small minority of people in South Korea, mostly older generations, consume dog meat. The vast majority of Koreans do not, they don't condone any form of torture and they all either support a complete ban or stronger regulations (with harsher punishments) at least. 0 0points reply Rob Woodman Rob Woodman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago Stop lying. We can easily find the numbers, and I have posted them before. 0 0points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Kowi_gal was downvoted, but it's true. Lauren Curry's comment is not a lie, but it is indeed misleading. The dog eating culture is here, it's cruel, but it's also disappearing. Change takes time, though, but we who live here in Korea know what's going on. -1 -1point reply Rob Woodman Rob Woodman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago No, kowi’s comment was not true. 0 0points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) To Eunice. You're right, but off-topic. 2 2points reply kowi_gal kowi_gal Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago @Eunice Probert but those examples are on humans. If we were to apply that logic and stop dog meat trade for animal rights reasons, then all animal meat trade should be stopped, not just dogs. As the comment says, it's the conditions that need to be improved. 1 1point reply Abhinc Abhinc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) the straw man rhetorical technique !!! a pure fallacy !! an opponent's argument or position is distorted or oversimplified so that it can easily be refuted. that's totally dishonest. it only proves you have no point to express your own opinion. it proves you're opinionated and not able of reasonable thinking based on logic, knowledge or facts ... AND whataboutism at the same !! well done ! great combo !! a real masterpiece. it says so much about you !! your statement is ridiculous ... just show me where i said it should go on ?? attacking me on something i didn't even say doesn't make much sense honey. you're making yourself ridiculous 1 1point reply Monty Glue Monty Glue Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I read and respect your comment always. The one aspect I can't forgive it the slow torture (usually by slowly strangling, by gradually raising the dog by the neck with a rope). The theory is the meat is sweeter if the animal suffers an agonizing death. I am glad the "dog rancher" didn't make money. Maybe South Korea will show China that this is not acceptable. I used to raise chickens and it bothered me so much that they suffered from cold in the winter. It used to keep we awake at night. Chickens hand raised will sit in your lap and are quite affectionate 6 6points reply Abhinc Abhinc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) i agree !! torturing an animal is terribly wrong !! in any case. all i'm asking is why torturing a dog should be considered worse than torturing a chicken or a cow ? the way you raised chicken is great but watch documentaries on industrial chicken farms and tell me how is it any different from this ?? once again it's an issue we should fully address without any emotional or cultural bias by looking at ourselves too 6 6points reply kowi_gal kowi_gal Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I agree.. I think it's a little hypocritical for any meat eater (including myself and I would never eat dog meat but still) to criticise consumption of one specific type of meat. It's only the conditions they're kept in and method of killing that should be criticised. Better regulations need to be established and reinforced. 7 7points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) Thank you for the culturally sensitive comment, Abhinc. I agree with you and I think you worded it very well. 3 3points reply Abhinc Abhinc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago you're very welcome Daria ! thank you for your kind words 2 2points reply Michaela Michaela Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Animals raised for food are treated horribly everywhere. I don’t believe in eating any animal but if you must, at least have the minimal amount of respect for them to allow them space and happiness while alive. Responsible hunting is best IMO because at least those animals were free and the hunter had to actually see the animal as a living being. 1 1point reply Jupittance Jupittance Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Eating dog in Korea was the result of famine, not a time-honored cultural practice. 1 1point reply jenjie.newt jenjie.newt Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago The difference is that some animals are bred to be companion animals and some are bred as livestock. Additionally, it's not economically practical to raise apex hunters for meat. 1 1point reply miss miss miss miss Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago A dog is a pet. I should go vegan 1 1point reply Kathryn Baylis Kathryn Baylis Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago Before you comment next, you need to read up on exactly how they slaughter the dogs. That in itself is enough to justify being judgmental about it. Don’t reply to this comment until you do that reading. 1 1point reply Abhinc Abhinc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) Absolutely not !! you don't get any right to be judgemental unless you watch videos of animal rights associations filming in slaughterhouses or industrial chickens or pigs farms for example !! try being honest enough to do that before lecturing me. do that and tell me it is much better if you dare. being occidental doesn't make you superior. i hope you'll realize that selective indignation is kinda hypocritical. 1 1point reply Kathryn Baylis Kathryn Baylis Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago (edited) “In some cases, the treatment of the animal prior to slaughter is deliberately cruel because of the misguided belief that torturing a dog prior to death results in better-tasting, adrenaline-rich meat”. I won’t go into all the gory details, but will supply a link to the highly reputable source for that quote and reliable information about the subject: https://www.hsi.org/news-media/dog-meat-trade-faqs/ . Here are more sources, so you can see that all they all found the same evidence: https://awionline.org/dogmeat , https://www.humanesociety.org/all-our-fights/ending-dog-meat , https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-116hconres66ih/html/BILLS-116hconres66ih.htm , http://www.acpagroup.org/the-dog-meat-trade/the-dog-meat-trade-a-severe-and-prevalent-animal-welfare-concern.html , https://www.americanhumane.org/position-statement/dog-and-cat-meat-trade/ , https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2021-07-14/debates/42923A00-FD85-4BD5-8EA2-4C702663D8A7/DogAndCatMeatTrade , https://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/about-us/campaigns/do 2 2points reply Abhinc Abhinc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago once again !! don't focus on dogs for social and cultural reason only !! selective indignation is very dishonest and hypocritical. if you want your comments on animals being tortured to be reliable you must admit it's not better here and other animals are not less important. if you don't your statements have less value and you just sound like a judgemental arrogant condescending occidental ... that would be a pity because your actually right and i agree. but you can't pretend animal cruelty is not a whole thing and chose what part you want to focus on. it's a whole thnig 0 0points reply Rob Woodman Rob Woodman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago Why are you busily setting up an entire family of straw men. 1 1point reply Bobbie Meyers Bobbie Meyers Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Dogs are genetically predisposed to be our "best friends". To do anything less makes humans less than sewage sludge. 0 0points reply Ivana Ivana Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Yea, don't care if people are offended that I find the practice of eating dog meat morally repulsive. A lot of those dogs are stolen pets. I eat cows and I bet people in India are offended. People have a right to be offended. I am offended about our own practices in the United States. You mentioned chickens and how we farm them here and you bet I think there is a huge problem with that. Honestly, when if comes to animals being treated poorly, I don't care if it upsets people that I think it is messed up or that I donate to change it. Vegan and vegetarians probably have a lot of not nice things to say about my eating habits too so they work hard to promote a different lifestyle and to stop what they view as a huge atrocity. Oh no, someone is offended that I find them offensive. People have a right to judge. Feeling strongly about an issue is what causes an issue to be changed, for laws to be modified. People marry little girls off when they are 5, I feel fine with saying that is wrong. 0 0points reply Gloria Benado Gloria Benado Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Hunger is what drove this practice. It is not culture -1 -1point reply snipergun snipergun Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago You're right. Any animal living in terrible condition is proof of how our society is undeveloped. No matter if it's dog, cow, chicken or frog. No matter if it's food processing, fur or whatever else there is. But here's unpopular opinion, vegans make this even worse and help absolutely nothing unfortunately. While there are so much better ways. -2 -2points reply Michaela Michaela Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago There are vegans that are trying to help in positive ways. I sponsor the education of child to help end her family’s historical business of dancing bears in India. She can end the cycle by having more opportunities. It takes compassion and understanding from both sides. The family isn’t treated as villains but rather supported and taught new skills which will better their lives and allow the animals to be moved to a sanctuary. Lumping everyone in the same basket because of what they do or don’t eat isn’t fair. Like their are responsible and kind hunters, there are vegans that don’t go around condemning everyone. 1 1point reply anaona anaona Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. ALL meat is murder! -4 -4points reply Jo Choto Jo Choto Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Interesting that this comment has been downvoted. How do you figure consuming meat is NOT murder? If you are feeling terribly bad for these cats and dogs, and you're happy they were not murdered, then what about all the other animals being murdered for food? What kind of cognitive dissonance does it take to care about a couple of species of animals but not about the rest? 4 4points reply SumoNinja SumoNinja Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Probably because the definition of murder is one human unlawfully killing another human. So an animal killing a human is not murder, and a human killing an animal is not murder. It is killing. Calling it murder is a tactic to try and humanize animals. Also, meat isn't murder. Killing is murder. Meat is a side effect, but that isn't nearly as catchy and looks lousy on a bumper sticker. 3 3points reply Ian Kelly Ian Kelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Self preservation and cultural normalization, also murder implies unnatural, meat is natural 0 0points reply Rick Rick Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Exactly. It’s because some animals are seen as food to be eaten and animas like dogs, which we associate with pets, are not. I myself am fond of kangaroo meat, which others find disgusting and gross and whilst I personally wouldn’t eat a dog, it would be highly hypocritical of me to call that out whilst enjoying my own meat consumptions. I agree with both of these comments. 0 0points reply Nives Novko Nives Novko Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago We need more people like that! 9 9points reply Ian Kelly Ian Kelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I know why I was downvoted but I believe you misunderstood me 0 0points reply Load More Replies... Ian Kelly Ian Kelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) This comment is hidden. Click here to view. The rescuer or? -18 -18points reply Load More Comments POST Susan Green Susan Green Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago These poor angels. I’m happy that they were rescued. 28 28points reply Horatio Jay Horatio Jay Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago What about all the cows, pigs, and chickens of the world? -3 -3points reply Load More Replies... Ian Kelly Ian Kelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Sure what about them, we’ll they weren’t the focus of this article for one. For another what about the poor grass or trees or bushes, they feel pain too. Also dogs eat meat, saving one dog condemns dozens if not hundreds of other animals to die for it to live. 3 3points reply The Coated Dev The Coated Dev Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I mean, that's how nature works. Creatures rely on others to survive. The pig eats grass, the wolf eats the pig. Humans even though we have created a artificial environment still rely on the things around us to survive. Such as wheat, meat, milk, fruit, vegetables, etc. 4 4points reply Ian Kelly Ian Kelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Milk is inherently unnatural, and pretty much an abomination 0 0points reply Jos Tiguidou Jos Tiguidou Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Don't open that can of worm TCD. You'll never hear the end of it. Anyways HJ's response is akin to the whole "BLM" movement vs the "All lives matter" folks. Totally missing the point. -3 -3points reply Ian Kelly Ian Kelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago No idea why you were downvoted, you’re totally right 1 1point reply Abhinc Abhinc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) maybe this opinion won't be very popular but ... IMO the problem is not about eating dog meat or not. this is a cultural topic and no one should judge. just imagine what people in India would think about you when you eat a burger ... in France we eat frog legs and oysters and snails and almost everybody else find it disgusting. i get it !! all countries have weird food habits that we don't understand and get disgusted by. some countries eat fried tarentulas or guinea pigs. don't get me wrong !! i would clearly never eat dog meat. but i know that i wouldn't do it for cultural reasons. for me the most concerning part of this is the condition these animals live in !! this is terrible. but once again who are we to judge !? it's not much better when we think about chicken farming in western countries. so yeah !! animal cruelty is a very important topic but before judging other countries maybe we should look at ourselves and what we conveniently accept for ourselves !! i'm still really glad those dogs were rescued 17 17points reply Eunice Probert Eunice Probert Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Foot binding in China was a cultural practise, female genital mutilation is a cultural practise in some countries. Would you argue that they should go on, just because it's a custom? Thankfully the foot binding custom ended. Other disgusting practises need to end, whether they are tied to a particular country or not. 43 43points reply Load More Replies... Abhinc Abhinc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) but let me clarify and make it simpler ... the conditions those dogs lived in are TERRIBLE and totally UNACCEPTABLE. i fully agree !! and this has to stop as you said !!! but everywhere and for every animal species. is it that different in our countries ? ever saw the way chicken are treated in our huge industrial farms ?? it's about animal being mistreated. not only or especially those dogs. it's about farming techniques in general. not only in Korea. i'm just saying i hope people who are offended (legitimately once again !!) by this would be offended by other situations too. because they should. it's a global issue. this situation is just one among many others unfortunately. and it would be totally dishonest and totally useless to say this is a scandal but accepting the way we treat animals in our western countries. if we want to adress this topic honestly, change it and solve it we can't let emotions overcome rational thinking. dogs are not more important than chicken or cows just because for us they are pets and our occidental point of view on what can be eaten or not is not more valuable than theirs. that's all i'm saying !! i'll just add that animal cruelty concerns tests on animals for cosmetics or drugs ... we don't discuss these points so much ... addressing only a part of the problem is dishonest and won't solve it 17 17points reply The Coated Dev The Coated Dev Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago You know the conditions that mass meat producing companies put their animals in are also horrible. 4 4points reply Lauren Curry Lauren Curry Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Also, let me mention that in South Korea, they do not eat dog meat because they have to. It's because they want to. I have a gorgeous, sweet and intelligent Golden Retriever that came from South Korea Meat Trade. She was rescued by another International group that rescue the dogs. This particular meat plant only raised Golden Retrievers because it was said that Golden's are a gourmet meat! Another thing people need to know is that in 2016 when my sweet girl was rescued, they believed in a certain type of torture to these animals before they were killed. They believed that the reason the meat was do good is because they had a practice on tenderizing the meat before the animal was killed. They hung them upside down and beat them. South Korea had/has the worst reputation for their practices. I can't say what they do now because I have heard that these practices are what caused some of the meat plants to be shut down. 4 4points reply kowi_gal kowi_gal Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) @Lauren Curry I think your comment is a little bit misleading.. a very small minority of people in South Korea, mostly older generations, consume dog meat. The vast majority of Koreans do not, they don't condone any form of torture and they all either support a complete ban or stronger regulations (with harsher punishments) at least. 0 0points reply Rob Woodman Rob Woodman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago Stop lying. We can easily find the numbers, and I have posted them before. 0 0points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Kowi_gal was downvoted, but it's true. Lauren Curry's comment is not a lie, but it is indeed misleading. The dog eating culture is here, it's cruel, but it's also disappearing. Change takes time, though, but we who live here in Korea know what's going on. -1 -1point reply Rob Woodman Rob Woodman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago No, kowi’s comment was not true. 0 0points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) To Eunice. You're right, but off-topic. 2 2points reply kowi_gal kowi_gal Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago @Eunice Probert but those examples are on humans. If we were to apply that logic and stop dog meat trade for animal rights reasons, then all animal meat trade should be stopped, not just dogs. As the comment says, it's the conditions that need to be improved. 1 1point reply Abhinc Abhinc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) the straw man rhetorical technique !!! a pure fallacy !! an opponent's argument or position is distorted or oversimplified so that it can easily be refuted. that's totally dishonest. it only proves you have no point to express your own opinion. it proves you're opinionated and not able of reasonable thinking based on logic, knowledge or facts ... AND whataboutism at the same !! well done ! great combo !! a real masterpiece. it says so much about you !! your statement is ridiculous ... just show me where i said it should go on ?? attacking me on something i didn't even say doesn't make much sense honey. you're making yourself ridiculous 1 1point reply Monty Glue Monty Glue Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I read and respect your comment always. The one aspect I can't forgive it the slow torture (usually by slowly strangling, by gradually raising the dog by the neck with a rope). The theory is the meat is sweeter if the animal suffers an agonizing death. I am glad the "dog rancher" didn't make money. Maybe South Korea will show China that this is not acceptable. I used to raise chickens and it bothered me so much that they suffered from cold in the winter. It used to keep we awake at night. Chickens hand raised will sit in your lap and are quite affectionate 6 6points reply Abhinc Abhinc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) i agree !! torturing an animal is terribly wrong !! in any case. all i'm asking is why torturing a dog should be considered worse than torturing a chicken or a cow ? the way you raised chicken is great but watch documentaries on industrial chicken farms and tell me how is it any different from this ?? once again it's an issue we should fully address without any emotional or cultural bias by looking at ourselves too 6 6points reply kowi_gal kowi_gal Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago I agree.. I think it's a little hypocritical for any meat eater (including myself and I would never eat dog meat but still) to criticise consumption of one specific type of meat. It's only the conditions they're kept in and method of killing that should be criticised. Better regulations need to be established and reinforced. 7 7points reply Daria B Daria B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) Thank you for the culturally sensitive comment, Abhinc. I agree with you and I think you worded it very well. 3 3points reply Abhinc Abhinc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago you're very welcome Daria ! thank you for your kind words 2 2points reply Michaela Michaela Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Animals raised for food are treated horribly everywhere. I don’t believe in eating any animal but if you must, at least have the minimal amount of respect for them to allow them space and happiness while alive. Responsible hunting is best IMO because at least those animals were free and the hunter had to actually see the animal as a living being. 1 1point reply Jupittance Jupittance Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Eating dog in Korea was the result of famine, not a time-honored cultural practice. 1 1point reply jenjie.newt jenjie.newt Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago The difference is that some animals are bred to be companion animals and some are bred as livestock. Additionally, it's not economically practical to raise apex hunters for meat. 1 1point reply miss miss miss miss Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago A dog is a pet. I should go vegan 1 1point reply Kathryn Baylis Kathryn Baylis Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago Before you comment next, you need to read up on exactly how they slaughter the dogs. That in itself is enough to justify being judgmental about it. Don’t reply to this comment until you do that reading. 1 1point reply Abhinc Abhinc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago (edited) Absolutely not !! you don't get any right to be judgemental unless you watch videos of animal rights associations filming in slaughterhouses or industrial chickens or pigs farms for example !! try being honest enough to do that before lecturing me. do that and tell me it is much better if you dare. being occidental doesn't make you superior. i hope you'll realize that selective indignation is kinda hypocritical. 1 1point reply Kathryn Baylis Kathryn Baylis Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago (edited) “In some cases, the treatment of the animal prior to slaughter is deliberately cruel because of the misguided belief that torturing a dog prior to death results in better-tasting, adrenaline-rich meat”. I won’t go into all the gory details, but will supply a link to the highly reputable source for that quote and reliable information about the subject: https://www.hsi.org/news-media/dog-meat-trade-faqs/ . Here are more sources, so you can see that all they all found the same evidence: https://awionline.org/dogmeat , https://www.humanesociety.org/all-our-fights/ending-dog-meat , https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-116hconres66ih/html/BILLS-116hconres66ih.htm , http://www.acpagroup.org/the-dog-meat-trade/the-dog-meat-trade-a-severe-and-prevalent-animal-welfare-concern.html , https://www.americanhumane.org/position-statement/dog-and-cat-meat-trade/ , https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2021-07-14/debates/42923A00-FD85-4BD5-8EA2-4C702663D8A7/DogAndCatMeatTrade , https://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/about-us/campaigns/do 2 2points reply Abhinc Abhinc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago once again !! don't focus on dogs for social and cultural reason only !! selective indignation is very dishonest and hypocritical. if you want your comments on animals being tortured to be reliable you must admit it's not better here and other animals are not less important. if you don't your statements have less value and you just sound like a judgemental arrogant condescending occidental ... that would be a pity because your actually right and i agree. but you can't pretend animal cruelty is not a whole thing and chose what part you want to focus on. it's a whole thnig 0 0points reply Rob Woodman Rob Woodman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 1 year ago Why are you busily setting up an entire family of straw men. 1 1point reply Bobbie Meyers Bobbie Meyers Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Dogs are genetically predisposed to be our "best friends". To do anything less makes humans less than sewage sludge. 0 0points reply Ivana Ivana Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Yea, don't care if people are offended that I find the practice of eating dog meat morally repulsive. A lot of those dogs are stolen pets. I eat cows and I bet people in India are offended. People have a right to be offended. I am offended about our own practices in the United States. You mentioned chickens and how we farm them here and you bet I think there is a huge problem with that. Honestly, when if comes to animals being treated poorly, I don't care if it upsets people that I think it is messed up or that I donate to change it. Vegan and vegetarians probably have a lot of not nice things to say about my eating habits too so they work hard to promote a different lifestyle and to stop what they view as a huge atrocity. Oh no, someone is offended that I find them offensive. People have a right to judge. Feeling strongly about an issue is what causes an issue to be changed, for laws to be modified. People marry little girls off when they are 5, I feel fine with saying that is wrong. 0 0points reply Gloria Benado Gloria Benado Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Hunger is what drove this practice. It is not culture -1 -1point reply snipergun snipergun Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago You're right. Any animal living in terrible condition is proof of how our society is undeveloped. No matter if it's dog, cow, chicken or frog. No matter if it's food processing, fur or whatever else there is. But here's unpopular opinion, vegans make this even worse and help absolutely nothing unfortunately. While there are so much better ways. -2 -2points reply Michaela Michaela Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago There are vegans that are trying to help in positive ways. I sponsor the education of child to help end her family’s historical business of dancing bears in India. She can end the cycle by having more opportunities. It takes compassion and understanding from both sides. The family isn’t treated as villains but rather supported and taught new skills which will better their lives and allow the animals to be moved to a sanctuary. Lumping everyone in the same basket because of what they do or don’t eat isn’t fair. Like their are responsible and kind hunters, there are vegans that don’t go around condemning everyone. 1 1point reply anaona anaona Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. ALL meat is murder! -4 -4points reply Jo Choto Jo Choto Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Interesting that this comment has been downvoted. How do you figure consuming meat is NOT murder? If you are feeling terribly bad for these cats and dogs, and you're happy they were not murdered, then what about all the other animals being murdered for food? What kind of cognitive dissonance does it take to care about a couple of species of animals but not about the rest? 4 4points reply SumoNinja SumoNinja Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Probably because the definition of murder is one human unlawfully killing another human. So an animal killing a human is not murder, and a human killing an animal is not murder. It is killing. Calling it murder is a tactic to try and humanize animals. Also, meat isn't murder. Killing is murder. Meat is a side effect, but that isn't nearly as catchy and looks lousy on a bumper sticker. 3 3points reply Ian Kelly Ian Kelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Self preservation and cultural normalization, also murder implies unnatural, meat is natural 0 0points reply Rick Rick Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 year ago Exactly. It’s because some animals are seen as food to be eaten and animas like dogs, which we associate with pets, are not. I myself am fond of kangaroo meat, which others find disgusting and gross and whilst I personally wouldn’t eat a dog, it would be highly hypocritical of me to call that out whilst enjoying my own meat consumptions. 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