Men Get Real About What Sucks About Being A Man 30 Answers

Men Get Real About What Sucks About Being A Man 30 Answers

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Men Get Real About What Sucks About Being A Man 30 Answers

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Publish Not your original work? Add source Life isn't all sunshine and rainbows, high salaries and breezing by on 'easy mode' when you're a man. No matter your gender, life is challenging. Your purpose isn't handed to you on a silver platter. And happiness isn't a guarantee if you don't strive to move toward it. And there are a lot of things that guys would love everyone to know about what it's actually like to be a man. Though, sometimes, we're far too shy to say them out loud. However, anonymity helps. Internet users have taken to Reddit to share the most annoying things about being a guy, after being prompted to open up their hearts by user u/justjuiced22. The answers, which you'll find below, are candid and range from the silly-yet-relatable to the more serious. Have a read through the posts as you scroll down and upvote the ones that you agree with or that you were surprised by. Do you have some thoughts on your mind that you'd like to share with the other readers? That's what the comment section is there for, Pandas. So don't be shy, share your own insights about the viral Reddit thread and what these men's answers say about society, below. I reached out to fitness expert Jack Bly for a few comments about masculinity, confidence, and men's issues. Here's what he had to say. "I'd say biggest issues that men have to deal with nowadays revolve around their inputs. Social media, TV, music, etc. Most people have inputs that constantly spout negativity and victim mentality. These inputs ultimately dictate their thoughts and as a result of their actions," he told Bored Panda. Scroll down for the full interview with Jack. This post may include affiliate links. #1 When I'm out alone with my toddler a lot of women look at me as if I'm an anomaly and a lot of guys look at me as if I'm being forced to do this. Like the "oof sorry bro" face.

It's weird that being a good dad is apparently such a rare thing that when I'm fully in charge of my son people assume there's something wrong with me and my partners relationship. I just like spending time with my son and pushing a stroller doesn't make me less of a man. thicchaggisboi , Mohamed Awwam Report Final score: 338points POST Monday Monday Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago It makes you more than a man. Being a guy makes you man, spending time with your son makes you a dad. So now you are both a man and a dad. 125 125points reply View More Replies... View more comments According to fitness expert Jack, the biggest issue for men is not having a purpose in life. That, in turn, affects all areas of a person's life. " I believe the core of being a good man is in true purpose. Men without purpose tend to be unhappy, depressed, lost," Jack shared his thoughts with Bored Panda. "Figure out your purpose by getting clear on your values and what's most important to you. As far as activities go, I'm always an advocate of pursuing good health as that is our foundation for our mind, energy, and mood." Jack added that he believes there "absolutely" is "a crisis for confidence among men." In his view, the reasons for this are obvious. "Most men have no reason to be confident. 73% are overweight, 80% are in debt, 50% are divorced. The best thing men can do to overcome this is to commit to the journey of self-development and finding their purpose," he said. The expert advocates pursuing excellence in health, wealth, and relationships. "When you do this, you provide yourself true reasons to build confidence." #2 Male eating disorders get zero attention. JadedTrekkie , Samuel Ramos Report Final score: 264points POST Lauren Caswell Lauren Caswell Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Bless Andrew Flintoff for speaking up about his bulimia struggles. We need more and we need it yesterday, too many males have been lost to this and it really sucks. You can't find help for your friend because he's male and it's so stupid. This was in the mid-2000s but it's no better today. Everyone can have eating disorders its not just women, and we all deserve support for it 54 54points reply View More Replies... View more comments #3 Getting very few/no compliments from my SO. I want to be told nice things about myself too. Aneides , Jakob Owens Report Final score: 253points POST Elin Noller Elin Noller Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago I think this depends a lot on the person you are with. Most women I know like giving compliments to ppl they love. 102 102points reply View More Replies... View more comments The thread links to the broader discussion of what guys and 'real men' should and shouldn't do, what behaviors are frowned upon by society, and understanding of masculinity leads to a healthy, happy lifestyle. A short while ago, I spoke about men's issues and masculinity with redditor M_RONA who gave some great in-depth insights on the topic. "I think, as men, we need to be more open about our issues and acknowledge the fact that we face some tough [stuff], often imposed on us by other guys. There's nothing wrong with being honest about what's bothering us, and I think just being able to talk about some of the issues we face would be a major contributing factor to our general well-being. Something as simple as just asking our friends how they're doing in life could go a long way!" he told Bored Panda in an honest and open interview. #4 Dealing with other men. The number of testosterone poisoned, porcelain figurine fragile ego having bastards seems endless. The_Unreal , John Arano Report Final score: 253points POST Caro Caro Caro Caro Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Yes, we women understand. That is really hard to deal with. I just avoid those testostercronies. 58 58points reply View More Replies... View more comments #5 The assumption that because I am the father that I don't know, or am incapable of taking care of my kids. People ask my wife all the time if she needs to rush home when she leaves the kids with me. I am not a babysitter, I know what I am doing. dyeson , Steven Van Loy Report Final score: 246points POST Brendan Roberts Brendan Roberts Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Yeah, this is a big one. I gave my number (as the main contact) to my eldest's school and my youngest's childminder, as I work from home and live 5 mins away from both. But they always call my wife first. She works about 30 mins away from the school and childminder. 64 64points reply View More Replies... View more comments #6 Not being able to talk about our emotions. Like hello, hi, I am a human being who would like to talk about their problems without the feeling of being judged. Agent527 , Nik Shuliahin Report Final score: 225points POST Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago That is terrible. We are a social species and need emotional support. Hugs 51 51points reply View more comments According to M_RONA, one thing that's happening in modern times is that the term 'toxic masculinity' gets taken way out of context, gets used where it shouldn't, and sometimes misrepresents reality. "While I absolutely agree that there are many male traits taken to the extreme that have horrible consequences for the people around them, I think the term is sadly being overused to mislabel normal and perfectly healthy male behavior," he explained. The interviewee noted that it's often other men who pressure guys into conforming and acting a certain way. This, in turn, can make it very hard for men to be emotionally vulnerable when they need to be. #7 This might seem petty or dumb, but right now, my fiancée and I are planning our wedding (She's female, I'm Male, we're a hetero couple).

I'm SUPER into the planning. I'm not at all a typical "macho" "cant be bothered with the frills and pomps" type of dude. I'm having fun helping putting together this day for my best friend and I!

Everytime we meet with a vendor they solely talk to her and ignore me entirely, acting on an assumption that she's a typical "Bridezilla" planning this day single handedly and I'm just some Bro she's shacking up with. When I do pitch in, the vendors almost act in an "ooooook, dont worry big guy, leave this to the adults" kind of way. It's more obvious in some than it is in others, but its damn infuriating. It's extremely frustrating and belittling. My fiancée is aware of it, and sticks up for me when necessary.

Like snap dude, you're damn straight I've got an opinion on the aesthetic of our f@#$ing orchid placement, take me seriously! bucketbiz9429 , Jeremy Wong Weddings Report Final score: 208points POST Andy Acceber Andy Acceber Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago I hope you're in a large enough city to find different vendors. If vendors don't respect your opinion, they obviously don't want your money. Take it to someone without the outdated gender norms. 61 61points reply View More Replies... View more comments #8 Being physically and mentally abused usually means a lot less to people than if it were a girl who were the victim. If the girl's the abuser and you're the victim almost no one will care at all and will almost always shame you for it. And when you try to defend yourself against a female, you're looked at like the monster Constant_Alternative Report Final score: 203points POST Penny Fan Penny Fan Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago My bro is a copper and one of has "regulars" was a body builder who was being beaten by his mrs. He was over 6' and built like a brick shithouse, she was 5'2" and 7 stone sopping wet. Whenever the cops arrived she'd pretend like she was the one being beaten and it never went any further. One day he just said to my bro "mate, look at me. If I hit her she'd be dead". Bro tried really hard to go for a conviction for her, but the CPS wouldn't touch it. 69 69points reply View More Replies... View more comments #9 Not being socially acceptable to carry a purse.

Like yeah, I'd love to always have my earbuds, phone charger, deodorant, small cologne sampler, and be able to store my keys, wallet, and phone without either stabbing my legs with keys when the pants are tight or having my phone slip out when I'm getting out of cars with loose fitting pants. I can think of so many things I'd bring in my man purse... x_Pyro Report Final score: 191points POST Samantha Lomb Samantha Lomb Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Most Russian men carry a small purse/ document bag because of all the documents/ masks/ chargers etc you must carry. No one thinks it is odd. 68 68points reply View More Replies... View more comments "A lot of guys were talking about how, as a man, they found it extremely difficult to talk and be open about their feelings. I think that stems from this notion that men are supposed to be so hardened and stoic that we never let things get to us, and if we ever experience a negative emotion, we shouldn't process it, we should just bottle it up and 'be a man.'" According to M_RONA, having a stoic attitude and a hardened mind are "certainly virtuous values" that help in life. But if these values are taken to the extreme and repress any and all emotions, the end result can be very harmful. "The basic attitude of 'men should do this, and women should do that' is hampering to both men and women, I think, something both sexes are guilty of doing, unfortunately," M_RONA shared with Bored Panda. "I think we all face issues of conformity and set expectations for what we're supposed to do, and I guess it's up to all of us to promote and cheer on people who don't fit into certain categories that we make for ourselves." #10 Honestly, I think the most annoying thing is the competitiveness of other males. Especially when it comes to women. I’ve been out with gfs and some dude will come up and blatantly start hitting on her. We’d make it apparent that we’re together and then the ridicule starts. “You’re with this guy?” “I bet he really sucks at ____.” “I could be better than him.” That alpha male s**t bugs the hell out of me. DoorNo_5 , Marvin Meyer Report Final score: 180points POST Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Those men are pathetic 87 87points reply View More Replies... View more comments #11 I'm 20, have no facial hair, very little muscle mass (barely started working out this year), almost no stamina, kissless, virgin, got slapped at a party recently (by some drunk dude), and I collect action figures (I'm still working on not being too ashamed of this one).

I feel like a total loser sometimes. Like I'm not a real man. It hurts, but at the same time I don't want to try to put on a fake man mask or anything. I guess I'm just too young to figure these things out. FerminFermin115 Report Final score: 174points POST David Evans David Evans Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago (edited) Muscles don't matter, you get to choose when and who you want to share your affection with, and you don't need anyone to tell you that you are awesome, you are! I've been in the Army for 21 years and I've met the biggest douchebags who were muscular egotists (I used to be one of them), people of a slimmer frame, and heavy set people and society focuses on physical attributes over what's most important; your character and how you treat people. As for collectables, I'm 41 and still like them. The times of people being looked at as weird for enjoying pop culture are fading. Those who judge people on their own personal hobbies do not know what they are missing. One of the things that took me almost 20 years to realize is that you have to love yourself first and appreciate the things you love without caring what others think. Do not try to be something you are not just to fit in societie's mold of what you think a man should be. Look for people with common interests and you'll find that there are entire communities of people that love what you love. If you want to get in shape, that's great for health but don't let those attributes define you. Best of luck! 107 107points reply View More Replies... View more comments #12 Walking into a public restroom and getting your shoes stuck to the ground because of all the dried piss on the floor. gyroggg , Oliver Hale Report Final score: 169points POST Marc Marc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Not only men restrooms. My wife is usually very disgusted by women restrooms. The reason is that women often won't sit down either, because of the nasty toilets left by others. Personally, I try to avoid public restrooms whenever possible. I really hate them. 55 55points reply View More Replies... View more comments Meanwhile, British psychotherapist Silva Neves told Bored Panda that toxic masculinity is mostly centered around a "general attitude perpetuated by systemic misogyny" than specific behaviors. He detailed that at the core of these "distorted ideas" lie things like the notion that men should "always be winners," shouldn't feel any vulnerability, and shouldn't be perceived as weak or soft. "Men with toxic masculinity usually have negative views towards women's rights (including their rights to the freedom of their own sexuality) and they tend to be homophobic," the expert said. "A man with healthy masculinity is the opposite to these traits: someone who is self-reflective, embraces their emotions including sadness, anxiety and crying, a man who isn't afraid of their own femininity and believes that women are equal, and therefore are very clear about respecting boundaries and consent with women." #13 Being told that my emotions don't matter. You know what happens when people bottle up their emotions? They either kill themselves or end up on the 6:00 news. Mr_Gibus Report Final score: 163points POST Natasha Natasha Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This . 39 39points reply View more comments #14 The stigma that every time I talk to a woman I don't know I automatically want to date them. Like f**k maybe I like talking to women because men don't open up about feelings and women actually listen just lookin for a friend man. Xsendox , Christin Hume Report Final score: 161points POST Elin Noller Elin Noller Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago It is a "stigma" because it is more or less a rule. All women have had male friends they thought were their friend that turned out to just want to get in their pants. The term "Friend zoned" exist cause of all those men who pretend to be your friend. 71 71points reply View More Replies... View more comments #15 Less annoying and more upsetting but: The lack of mental health outreach for men. Kooba9 , Nathan McDine Report Final score: 159points POST kjorn kjorn Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago i saw and heard some woman in the news just says stuff like: to hell with mens, we are more important, it's our turn. this is just some shitty way to think. it wasn't ok to threat woman like that before but it's not ok to take revenge at those who wasn't even there when all that happen 29 29points reply View More Replies... View more comments #16 Shopping for clothes. I've noticed in every clothing store, we have this small corner in the back of the store for our clothes then the rest of the store is 95% female clothing. imalonleyguytbh , Alexander Kovacs Report Final score: 152points POST DUN DUN DUN DUN Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago In my country we do have separate floors or separate rooms for men, women and kids sections 48 48points reply View More Replies... View more comments #17 You're expected to just deal with a lot of things that girls would get help with. tastehbacon , Kelly Sikkema Report Final score: 151points POST Tobias Rieper Tobias Rieper Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago i agree like if your car breaks down and you call for roadside assistance lone women are given priority like as a guy were supposed to just wait and fend off attackers for hours 26 26points reply View More Replies... View more comments See Also on Bored Panda Woman Shows How "Harry Potter" Characters Were Supposed To Look According To Book Descriptions (35 Pics) 50 ‘Weird Facts’ About The World That Might Give You A Fresh Perspective #18 Everything in your life is a competition. Every. F***ing. Thing. smarmageddon , Randy Fath Report Final score: 143points POST Andy Acceber Andy Acceber Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago You need new friends, man. 83 83points reply View More Replies... View more comments #19 Being called weak if I show any emotion. ExoticStories , Ali Jouyandeh Report Final score: 131points POST Caro Caro Caro Caro Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago That's not weak, that's what makes you a human being. 65 65points reply View More Replies... View more comments #20 All the societal pressure that on you to initiate, fix, pay, provide etc. Neptune-Jr , rupixen.com Report Final score: 125points POST Marc Marc Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago (edited) One of my best friends, a very nice and humble man, did have this "problem" for almost 10 years of his life. It was mainly because his self-perception and confidence was all broken and wrong. He doesn't have a job where he earns a lot of money and doesn't own a house or anything fancy. Therefore he always thought he couldn't provide for a partner, let alone a family. He later suffered from depression because of that. It wasn't easy to help him, because he often met the wrong women, which verified his self-awareness. Long story short - it needed the right person, woman, to get him out of his corner. It took him almost 10 years. Seeing him today often makes me smile and happy, because he got so much confidence and is in peace with himself. 36 36points reply View More Replies... View more comments #21 Being judged almost exclusively on one's financial stability, in an economy that makes financial stability very difficult to achieve. green_meklar , Emil Kalibradov Report Final score: 123points POST Brendan Roberts Brendan Roberts Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago I earn enough to pay the bills and look after my kids, with a little left over to add to our savings pot. This should feel like enough, but it doesn't. I feel like I should own a chalet in the Swiss Alps in order to be considered financially successful. 25 25points reply View More Replies... View more comments #22 The male stereotypes. Sometimes a guy needs to cry and just let stuff out. Or being strong and doing physical work isn't his thing. BlacktheMew , David Billings Report Final score: 122points POST Vorknkx Vorknkx Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Indeed. I am not very strong and can't lift heavy stuff. It's a fact of life, and I can't just snap my fingers and suddenly become the Hulk. 10 10points reply View More Replies... View more comments #23 Always being expected to make the first move towards the woman. dailydonuts16 , Benjamin Ashton Report Final score: 118points POST Tobias Rieper Tobias Rieper Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago for once i would like a woman that likes me to do that myself personally i am scared to make the first move in case i have mis read the signs like i think they are in to me but are just being friendly 40 40points reply View More Replies... View more comments #24 Living in fear of being labeled as a "creep" or "pervert" for trying to talk to a girl Al-cicada Report Final score: 116points POST Anton Kider Anton Kider Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Or even playing with toddlers !! 53 53points reply View More Replies... View more comments #25 Used to be getting random b*ners at inappropriate times. Now, it's not being able to get a b*ner at appropriate times. NastyLittleBagginses Report Final score: 110points POST Brendan Roberts Brendan Roberts Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago We can all relate to this one. If only we had control of our penises! 40 40points reply View More Replies... View more comments #26 Having to feel I have to stay quiet about the way I feel about my body Michael_Scarn427 , Siora Photography Report Final score: 108points POST Viviane Viviane Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago It can be a relief for some women to know that men worry about looks, too. My husband occasionally wishes he looked more muscular. Losing hair is another issue. 23 23points reply View more comments #27 Being the person to go check out the noise that just happened in a creepy place, to promptly be brutally murdered by some evil demon spirit GiveMeYerBelt , Pawel Czerwinski Report Final score: 107points POST A girl A girl Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago While I appreciate that my husband will do this, I'm the one that hears it and I'm the one with a juggling club near my side of the bed. I lived alone a long time. I will maim to protect him. 60 60points reply View More Replies... View more comments See Also on Bored Panda Overworked Employee Quits Because He Wasn't Getting A Fair Wage, Costs The Company $40 Million 40 Embarrassing Moments People Didn't Know Who They Were Talking To And Made A Fool Of Themselves #28 Probably the fact that we're expected to have the courage to approach women at bars or wherever else, which wouldn't be so intimidating if the perception of said flirting didn't depend entirely on how attractive they happen to find us. We're told "the worst thing she can do is say no" but it feels pretty s**tty when she and her friends straight up laugh as you walk away, or even worse, to your face. As someone fairly middle of the road in terms of looks, it's like "Oh boy, am I gonna have a fun conversation or are she and her friends gonna laugh at me, let's roll those dice!!!" Most of the women I talk to who decide they're not interested are polite about it and I appreciate those people, but some are just mean, and most of us guys aren't quite as emotionless as we're supposed to be. That stuff is a big feels bad. GiacchinoFrost , Alex Voulgaris Report Final score: 107points POST Tobias Rieper Tobias Rieper Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago also approaching a woman and being seen as a creep because they don't find you attractive 41 41points reply View More Replies... View more comments #29 Baldness. Some can make it work for them, but most can't. sd_glokta , Shivam Dewan Report Final score: 101points POST Ian Bartels Ian Bartels Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago I started shaving my head a few years ago. Best decision ever. 47 47points reply View More Replies... View more comments #30 Trying to shave those damn hairs on your Adam’s apple without slicing your throat open L4chie , Supply Report Final score: 98points POST KJ KJ Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago That's really not a hard thing to get around unless your shaving with a katana. 21 21points reply View More Replies... View more comments Note: this post originally had 61 images. It’s been shortened to the top 30 images based on user votes. Anyone can write on Bored Panda. Start writing! Follow Bored Panda on Google News! Follow us on Flipboard.com/@boredpanda! Add Your Answer! Not your original work? Add source Publish Change image Upload Photo Ooops! Your image is too large, maximum file size is 8 MB. Upload Upload Edit Image Error occurred when generating embed. Please check link and try again. Render conversation
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Title Update Jonas Grinevičius Follow Unfollow Jonas Grinevičius Writer, BoredPanda staff Jonas is a Bored Panda writer who previously worked as a world news journalist elsewhere. After getting his bachelor's degree in Politics and International Relations at the University of Manchester, he returned home and graduated from Vilnius University with a master's degree in Comparative Politics. Jonas enjoys writing articles ranging from serious topics like politics and social issues to more lighthearted things like art, pop culture, and nature. In his spare time, Jonas writes books and short stories and likes to draw lighthearted illustrations. A huge fan of literature, films, philosophy, and tabletop games, he also has a special place in his heart for anything related to fantasy or science fiction. Read more » Mantas Kačerauskas Mantas Kačerauskas Author, BoredPanda staff Mantas is a photo editor at Bored Panda. Also he is a student of Digital Contents, who was studying is South Korea and right now is taking a break from studies so he could get more experience and polish his craft.
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Most men that I met complain about this issues but they are not aware that they come from sexism and that the solution is feminism, not misoginy. Men, we believe you and want to help you but you need to step up! I know that there are many feminist men but sadly they are still in the minority. 47 47points reply Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Its also important to notice that most of this issues are about peopel judging you, not legal or physical limitations. Everyone needs to learn to be themselves and not give in the stupid and harmful gender roles. Is society that has the problem and needs to change, not you. There is not a proper way to be a man. You are a man if you cry. You are a man with long hair. You are a man if you like flowers. You are a man if your girlfriend earns more than you... 20 20points reply Load More Replies... GaeFrog GaeFrog Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Yes good point. One example is that if men don't want to be judged when taking their kid out alone without the mom, people need to stop assuming the mom takes care of everything while the man just sits around and isn't involved in his kid's lives 2 2points reply J. F. J. F. Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago (edited) Would help if feminism wouldn't be displayed by misandry in the overall media, the marketing for it drives people away instead of getting them on board 2 2points reply Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Absolutely. Everybody gets harmed by sexism in a way or another. But its not what most people think 4 4points reply Scarbez Scarbez Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago We forgot one. Whenever we complain about something, it always gets turned around and ends up being our fault 0 0points reply Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Where did I say that its your fault? Its every odys fault since we all make society. Sexism does not equal "men"... 1 1point reply Vincent Philippart Vincent Philippart Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Show me the money then: when did any significant feminist organization secure a big win for men's issues? Or even actively fight for it? Fourth wave feminism is all about reinforcing gendered stereotypes like "men strong, aggressive, women weak, helpless". The only significant social movement actually fighting against gendered expectations on men is the gay rights movement. Feminism does not have a monopoly on gender issues or the concept of equality. -4 -4points reply Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Just one example. The feminist associations in europe and spain specifically have been fighting long for a good paternity leave for men. The spanish government recently gave 4 months of paternity leave for fathers thanks to feminism 7 7points reply Vincent Philippart Vincent Philippart Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago (edited) That's wonderful, but that's also not so much a men's issue as a both genders issue. Women have as much to gain as men from fathers having the chance to play a more active role. There are however men's issue women have no direct interest in, such as homelessness, suicide, addiction, domestic abuse, reproductive rights... Very often, feminist organisations have opposed action on those. In my own country, Belgium, the very feminist secretary of state for equality boasts about opening 7 new women's shelter (none for men) developping a women-specific homelessness initiative (most homeless are men), opposing surrogacy for gay or single male parents (which might turn me into a criminal), or centering the debate on the consequences of COVID on women (more men died and lost their job)... All that with the support of the feminist associative world. I don't trust that ideology anymore. -3 -3points reply Aeon Flux Aeon Flux Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago You're wrong, dude. 1 1point reply Scarbez Scarbez Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. And the fact that when you are a white male people assume everything is given to you. I walked in to apply to a bellboy job and they told me, nooo you are vice president material. Here 250k a year and a company car. Use the helicopter whenever you need too. While there are a lot of things to fix, this is not how it works for us either -4 -4points reply Scarlett Scarlett Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Can we normalize being like Tolkien’s men? They were brave, kind, and loyal. They cried and showed emotion. They were never disrespectful to women or each other. 29 29points reply Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Right? The books are quite sexist when it comes to women (but its a product of the time so its understandable). But it showed an amazing example of positive masculinity for men and boys. 7 7points reply Load More Replies... Droopsnoot Droopsnoot Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago There were barely any strong women in there, though... So maybe Tolkien 1 1point reply Zedrapazia Zedrapazia Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Tolkien lived in a time when women had less rights. So for his time, he was actually pretty equal regarding the genders, compared to how others back then had been. 8 8points reply Aeon Flux Aeon Flux Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Man am I tired of this justification. "It was just the time they lived in!" No, there were always people who took women seriously. He could have listened to them. 0 0points reply Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago That is a big issue with Tolkien (altough it was explained by the times he lived in). But its a different thing, he did write very progressive emotional men. 4 4points reply Droopsnoot Droopsnoot Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Wasn't completely respectful to women? -4 -4points reply Potato Potato Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago He was respectful to women. Remember the famous line? "No man can kill me." "I am no man." 5 5points reply zrwhol cue zrwhol cue Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Yeah, emotions for men are quite everywhere... why the everyday life is so detached from medias? Is the media growing faster than humanity? -4 -4points reply Deena Salzman Deena Salzman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This is another reason why we all need to work together to dismantle gender norms. They hurt everyone. 26 26points reply Load More Comments POST Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago And this is why feminism is so important for everyone. Most men that I met complain about this issues but they are not aware that they come from sexism and that the solution is feminism, not misoginy. Men, we believe you and want to help you but you need to step up! I know that there are many feminist men but sadly they are still in the minority. 47 47points reply Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Its also important to notice that most of this issues are about peopel judging you, not legal or physical limitations. Everyone needs to learn to be themselves and not give in the stupid and harmful gender roles. Is society that has the problem and needs to change, not you. There is not a proper way to be a man. You are a man if you cry. You are a man with long hair. You are a man if you like flowers. You are a man if your girlfriend earns more than you... 20 20points reply Load More Replies... GaeFrog GaeFrog Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Yes good point. One example is that if men don't want to be judged when taking their kid out alone without the mom, people need to stop assuming the mom takes care of everything while the man just sits around and isn't involved in his kid's lives 2 2points reply J. F. J. F. Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago (edited) Would help if feminism wouldn't be displayed by misandry in the overall media, the marketing for it drives people away instead of getting them on board 2 2points reply Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Absolutely. Everybody gets harmed by sexism in a way or another. But its not what most people think 4 4points reply Scarbez Scarbez Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago We forgot one. Whenever we complain about something, it always gets turned around and ends up being our fault 0 0points reply Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Where did I say that its your fault? Its every odys fault since we all make society. Sexism does not equal "men"... 1 1point reply Vincent Philippart Vincent Philippart Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Show me the money then: when did any significant feminist organization secure a big win for men's issues? Or even actively fight for it? Fourth wave feminism is all about reinforcing gendered stereotypes like "men strong, aggressive, women weak, helpless". The only significant social movement actually fighting against gendered expectations on men is the gay rights movement. Feminism does not have a monopoly on gender issues or the concept of equality. -4 -4points reply Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Just one example. The feminist associations in europe and spain specifically have been fighting long for a good paternity leave for men. The spanish government recently gave 4 months of paternity leave for fathers thanks to feminism 7 7points reply Vincent Philippart Vincent Philippart Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago (edited) That's wonderful, but that's also not so much a men's issue as a both genders issue. Women have as much to gain as men from fathers having the chance to play a more active role. There are however men's issue women have no direct interest in, such as homelessness, suicide, addiction, domestic abuse, reproductive rights... Very often, feminist organisations have opposed action on those. In my own country, Belgium, the very feminist secretary of state for equality boasts about opening 7 new women's shelter (none for men) developping a women-specific homelessness initiative (most homeless are men), opposing surrogacy for gay or single male parents (which might turn me into a criminal), or centering the debate on the consequences of COVID on women (more men died and lost their job)... All that with the support of the feminist associative world. I don't trust that ideology anymore. -3 -3points reply Aeon Flux Aeon Flux Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago You're wrong, dude. 1 1point reply Scarbez Scarbez Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. And the fact that when you are a white male people assume everything is given to you. I walked in to apply to a bellboy job and they told me, nooo you are vice president material. Here 250k a year and a company car. Use the helicopter whenever you need too. While there are a lot of things to fix, this is not how it works for us either -4 -4points reply Scarlett Scarlett Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Can we normalize being like Tolkien’s men? They were brave, kind, and loyal. They cried and showed emotion. They were never disrespectful to women or each other. 29 29points reply Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Right? The books are quite sexist when it comes to women (but its a product of the time so its understandable). But it showed an amazing example of positive masculinity for men and boys. 7 7points reply Load More Replies... Droopsnoot Droopsnoot Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago There were barely any strong women in there, though... So maybe Tolkien 1 1point reply Zedrapazia Zedrapazia Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago Tolkien lived in a time when women had less rights. So for his time, he was actually pretty equal regarding the genders, compared to how others back then had been. 8 8points reply Aeon Flux Aeon Flux Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago Man am I tired of this justification. "It was just the time they lived in!" No, there were always people who took women seriously. He could have listened to them. 0 0points reply Ozacoter Ozacoter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 11 months ago That is a big issue with Tolkien (altough it was explained by the times he lived in). But its a different thing, he did write very progressive emotional men. 4 4points reply Droopsnoot Droopsnoot Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Wasn't completely respectful to women? -4 -4points reply Potato Potato Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago He was respectful to women. Remember the famous line? "No man can kill me." "I am no man." 5 5points reply zrwhol cue zrwhol cue Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Yeah, emotions for men are quite everywhere... why the everyday life is so detached from medias? Is the media growing faster than humanity? -4 -4points reply Deena Salzman Deena Salzman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 11 months ago This is another reason why we all need to work together to dismantle gender norms. They hurt everyone. 26 26points reply Load More Comments Popular on Bored Panda I Used AI To See What These 23 Popular Cartoon Characters Would Look Like In Real Life 30 Y.O. 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