On My Trip To Saudi Arabia I Met Male Members Of The Qahtan Tribe Flower Men
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Community member In Saudi Arabia, in the Jizan and Asir southern provinces, along with the Yemeni border, I found the legendary "flower men". For centuries, the descendants of the ancient Tihama and Asir tribes loved to wear colorful garlands. Forget the Arabic keffiyeh, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair! The wreaths made of fresh flowers are not only beautiful to look at but they also are exquisitely scented. And, of course, the first thing they did when they saw me was putting a garland on my head! More info: ericlafforgue.com Instagram Facebook
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Yes. Has it improved a lot in the recent years? Absolutely, and they are still working on it. As a foreign woman that works there very often, I have never felt discriminated against. I have been in high profile meetings where my opinion was listened to and respected. I've gotten more gender discrimination from a German partner at my firm than my Saudi clients. 18 18points reply Load More Replies... Xatia L Xatia L Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I’ve worked in Saudi for 4 and a half years and I agree. Never had an issue here due to my gender. Things are definitely changing for the better for the local women though and it’s been great to see the effects of that. 6 6points reply boredpanDaman boredpanDaman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago nice of you bringing this up 0 0points reply Zobi123 Zobi123 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. That is quite a privelege you have. -4 -4points reply Full Name Full Name Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago How about focusing on what the article is actually about? EVERYTHING has something wrong with it but we'll get nowhere if we only concentrate on those things. The best way to achieve progress is to start with what brings us together. To start off with "well fuck them" isn't helping. 9 9points reply 2-10-11 2-10-11 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago The treatment of women and non Saudi guest workers in the kingdom is not a small issue, nor is the power that they use to control other nations. Perhaps we can say yes those are pretty flowers and you look lovely, but now how about letting a lady buy a flower too? 11 11points reply boredpanDaman boredpanDaman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago the "treatment" you are mentioning, especially of guest workers, but also of women, comes from the govt'/king, not these ordinary people. who told you a lady cannot buy flowers?? 5 5points reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago The article. We're not allowed in the market space. 1 1point reply Xatia L Xatia L Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Women are allowed in the market. I’ve been to many in my years working in Saudi Arabia. In this particular region women don’t sell things in the market but they can shop. 1 1point reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago So... put the blinders back on? Hell no. 1 1point reply boredpanDaman boredpanDaman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago where do you base your assumption? on hollywood movies? on our western desire to consider everyone else as savages? on your own frustration? 3 3points reply unknown unknown unknown unknown Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago oh for real? How long did you live there ? Or do you just get all you knowledge about other countries from the news. 3 3points reply hawra alnabi hawra alnabi Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Maybe you should visit before you talk about what you don't know.... until you do so, you shouldn't give your opinion. 1 1point reply Lou Wow Lou Wow Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Rest assured though. They look ridiculous. -18 -18points reply Susan L. Miller Susan L. Miller Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago Real men wear flowers! 14 14points reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago Real men let women wear flowers. 2 2points reply Load More Replies... Xatia L Xatia L Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago It says right in the article that “women wear flowers too, mostly at home” 2 2points reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago Oh my god. Nitpicker. Fine I'll rephrase. Real men have no problem with women wearing and selling flowers in the market place while their cleavage is showing because they realise full well women have equal rights. -1 -1point reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago No wait. That implies I'd actually let a guy stop me from doing something I want to do. Real men have no problem with women wearing flowers. -1 -1point reply Monty Glue Monty Glue Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago Who can fault a guy for just wanting to look pretty? I'm amazed they tolerate that in the kingdom though. A few years ago some Italian guys visited and they were deported because they were so handsome the mutaween (religious police) said they would induce lustful thoughts in innocent citizens. So out they went. 12 12points reply Jo Bebe Jo Bebe Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago "No women can be seen in those markets, it is a male business." - This is why I don't like the "kingdom" if you can call it that. Let alone their stupid "constitution" (if you can call it that) is terrible as it is all based on religion 17 17points reply Load More Replies... Zaynab Sheriff Zaynab Sheriff Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago I feel like its really injust to say its 'based on religion' as you've claimed. No doubt their treatment of women is absolutely ABHORRENT, its due tpo this culture that has stemmed from a women being seen as lower class when compared to the male counterpart. I do know plenty of Muslim women, and I too once had the very same thoughts you have stated, but I know believe the truth of the sinful treatment women are subjected too, and are in fact supported by a corrupt and vicious govenment that is refusing to change and to elevate the rights of the vulnerable, instead content to paint a man's world. In a religion which is one of the largest and appeals to many, that has elevated the status of a woman to the extent that as a daughter she is her fathers pathway to paradise, as a wife, she completes half of her faith, and as a mother, her status is elevated to the extent that paradise lies under her feet, with the responsibility of her kind and just treatment being compulsory, the denying of 5 5points reply Zaynab Sheriff Zaynab Sheriff Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago (edited) READ THE BELOW COMMENT FIRST it sinful, how then can Saudi Arabia's practices of ERASING and HATING women possibly be called "based on religion." If you mean baed on religion as in the whitewashing and propaganda labelling it as such, then that is a different case. 3 3points reply Mari Mari Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago It's not based on religion, women has to be treatend with respect in islam. The idea of islam is to protect the women. Cultural paternal traditions misused this to overpower the women. The last years there are efforts to change the mentality, this will take time. It takes always a few generations to accept changes and mentality. 0 0points reply unknown unknown unknown unknown Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago you know that never happened right? That was a hoax "news" story, there is not a religious police bothering people anymore 5 5points reply Load More Comments POST Christina Sersif Christina Sersif Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago (edited) It's nice, but they treat women like property so until they catch up with feminism and just treating women like actual human beings I don't really have an opinion aside from it's nice 24 24points reply Liz Valle Liz Valle Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago Is there improvement in women's rights to be made? Yes. Has it improved a lot in the recent years? Absolutely, and they are still working on it. As a foreign woman that works there very often, I have never felt discriminated against. I have been in high profile meetings where my opinion was listened to and respected. I've gotten more gender discrimination from a German partner at my firm than my Saudi clients. 18 18points reply Load More Replies... Xatia L Xatia L Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I’ve worked in Saudi for 4 and a half years and I agree. Never had an issue here due to my gender. Things are definitely changing for the better for the local women though and it’s been great to see the effects of that. 6 6points reply boredpanDaman boredpanDaman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago nice of you bringing this up 0 0points reply Zobi123 Zobi123 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. That is quite a privelege you have. -4 -4points reply Full Name Full Name Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago How about focusing on what the article is actually about? EVERYTHING has something wrong with it but we'll get nowhere if we only concentrate on those things. The best way to achieve progress is to start with what brings us together. To start off with "well fuck them" isn't helping. 9 9points reply 2-10-11 2-10-11 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago The treatment of women and non Saudi guest workers in the kingdom is not a small issue, nor is the power that they use to control other nations. Perhaps we can say yes those are pretty flowers and you look lovely, but now how about letting a lady buy a flower too? 11 11points reply boredpanDaman boredpanDaman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago the "treatment" you are mentioning, especially of guest workers, but also of women, comes from the govt'/king, not these ordinary people. who told you a lady cannot buy flowers?? 5 5points reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago The article. We're not allowed in the market space. 1 1point reply Xatia L Xatia L Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Women are allowed in the market. I’ve been to many in my years working in Saudi Arabia. In this particular region women don’t sell things in the market but they can shop. 1 1point reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago So... put the blinders back on? Hell no. 1 1point reply boredpanDaman boredpanDaman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago where do you base your assumption? on hollywood movies? on our western desire to consider everyone else as savages? on your own frustration? 3 3points reply unknown unknown unknown unknown Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago oh for real? How long did you live there ? Or do you just get all you knowledge about other countries from the news. 3 3points reply hawra alnabi hawra alnabi Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Maybe you should visit before you talk about what you don't know.... until you do so, you shouldn't give your opinion. 1 1point reply Lou Wow Lou Wow Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Rest assured though. They look ridiculous. -18 -18points reply Susan L. Miller Susan L. Miller Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago Real men wear flowers! 14 14points reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago Real men let women wear flowers. 2 2points reply Load More Replies... Xatia L Xatia L Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago It says right in the article that “women wear flowers too, mostly at home” 2 2points reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago Oh my god. Nitpicker. Fine I'll rephrase. Real men have no problem with women wearing and selling flowers in the market place while their cleavage is showing because they realise full well women have equal rights. -1 -1point reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago No wait. That implies I'd actually let a guy stop me from doing something I want to do. Real men have no problem with women wearing flowers. -1 -1point reply Monty Glue Monty Glue Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago Who can fault a guy for just wanting to look pretty? I'm amazed they tolerate that in the kingdom though. A few years ago some Italian guys visited and they were deported because they were so handsome the mutaween (religious police) said they would induce lustful thoughts in innocent citizens. So out they went. 12 12points reply Jo Bebe Jo Bebe Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago "No women can be seen in those markets, it is a male business." - This is why I don't like the "kingdom" if you can call it that. Let alone their stupid "constitution" (if you can call it that) is terrible as it is all based on religion 17 17points reply Load More Replies... Zaynab Sheriff Zaynab Sheriff Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago I feel like its really injust to say its 'based on religion' as you've claimed. No doubt their treatment of women is absolutely ABHORRENT, its due tpo this culture that has stemmed from a women being seen as lower class when compared to the male counterpart. I do know plenty of Muslim women, and I too once had the very same thoughts you have stated, but I know believe the truth of the sinful treatment women are subjected too, and are in fact supported by a corrupt and vicious govenment that is refusing to change and to elevate the rights of the vulnerable, instead content to paint a man's world. In a religion which is one of the largest and appeals to many, that has elevated the status of a woman to the extent that as a daughter she is her fathers pathway to paradise, as a wife, she completes half of her faith, and as a mother, her status is elevated to the extent that paradise lies under her feet, with the responsibility of her kind and just treatment being compulsory, the denying of 5 5points reply Zaynab Sheriff Zaynab Sheriff Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago (edited) READ THE BELOW COMMENT FIRST it sinful, how then can Saudi Arabia's practices of ERASING and HATING women possibly be called "based on religion." If you mean baed on religion as in the whitewashing and propaganda labelling it as such, then that is a different case. 3 3points reply Mari Mari Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago It's not based on religion, women has to be treatend with respect in islam. The idea of islam is to protect the women. Cultural paternal traditions misused this to overpower the women. The last years there are efforts to change the mentality, this will take time. It takes always a few generations to accept changes and mentality. 0 0points reply unknown unknown unknown unknown Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago you know that never happened right? That was a hoax "news" story, there is not a religious police bothering people anymore 5 5points reply Load More Comments Popular on Bored Panda I Used AI To See What These 23 Popular Cartoon Characters Would Look Like In Real Life 30 Y.O. 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On My Trip To Saudi Arabia I Met Male Members Of The Qahtan Tribe – Flower Men
26Kviews Eric LafforgueCommunity member In Saudi Arabia, in the Jizan and Asir southern provinces, along with the Yemeni border, I found the legendary "flower men". For centuries, the descendants of the ancient Tihama and Asir tribes loved to wear colorful garlands. Forget the Arabic keffiyeh, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair! The wreaths made of fresh flowers are not only beautiful to look at but they also are exquisitely scented. And, of course, the first thing they did when they saw me was putting a garland on my head! More info: ericlafforgue.com Instagram Facebook
Some imagine Saudi Arabia is a huge desert but they are wrong more than 2000 species of flora can be found in the Kingdom
The men come to the market to buy ready-made wreaths early in the morning before it gets too hot
The garlands and wreaths are made every morning in local markets like Sabya or Addair. Some men prefer to select their own herbs and flowers and prepare the garlands themselves for a more unique look. Herbs such as wild basil, fenugreek, and marigold flowers are the most popular.An old man wears traditional shoes made of palm leaves In the Mahalah flower men market
Twenty years ago, the tribes were leading totally isolated lives without electricity or concrete roads and were living according to the dictates of conservative tribal law. No women can be seen in those markets, it is a male business.The ultimate chic for the old flower men is to match the colors of their wreath with their beard dyed with henna
Many say they look much younger and much more attractive like this.The wreaths are sold for a handful of euros
The most elegant wreaths are made with a type of white jasmine that is so fragile, sellers have to keep it in iceboxes. A wreath like this one can be worn for two days.The flowers are carefully chosen to create harmony with the tribeʹ s traditional dress
A few years ago, futas were woven in the Yemeni village of Bayt Al Faqih, but nowadays they are made in India.The wreaths are worn not only for aesthetic purposes but also for health reasons
Herbal medicine is very popular in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and is believed to cure headaches. You even can spot people putting wild basil directly into the nose when they feel ill. The kohl men put on their eyes has also medicinal effects. Flower men can also be found on the other side of the Saudi border, in Yemen. The ongoing war between both countries has generated a lot of embarrassment in the community as people belong to the same tribe.Flower men still like to live in the mountains
To live in the mountains is an old tradition that enables them to monitor the area from the highest points and also a good way to get fresh air in the summertime. Flower men grow coffee and khat, a stimulant drug, on terraces. People can chew khat only in this area of Saudi Arabia. An exception in a country where possession of drugs leads to the death penalty.Flower men in the Asir province used to live in this kind of houses until the 80s
The houses are made of red stone and mud bricks. The watchtowers were used both for security and granaries.Inside the abandoned old houses you can notice the walls decorated with the same color scheme as the flower crowns
This art called Al-Qatt Al-Asiri was created by women and has recently been listed by UNESCO. The women also wear floral garlands, mostly at home, but taking pictures of them is strictly forbidden. Many flower men still take care of old family houses or watchtowers, some of them over two hundred years old. Local people are keen to explain that their community has inhabited the region for more than 2000 years.The wreaths and garlands are everyday accessories
Flower men tend to save their most elaborate natural headgear for Ramadan and weddings. Friends are often seen sporting the same look.Despite their love of flowers the tribes are famous for their combat skills
For the longest time, they were reluctant to have their photos taken or to even meet foreigners. With the increasing pace of economic development within the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, however, things are changing quickly. The flower men are keen to retain their tradition of floral decorations, as it is a peaceful way of setting them apart from the rest of the country. If some men give up the wreaths, many keep the long hair as a part of the local culture. Some are so proud of their floral decorations that they share them on Instagram. It is also a good way of showing off their looks to the girls they love before the wedding. Even if society is still very conservative, social networks are allowing young men and women to have private contact with each other.Children are proud to be seen wearing futas and flowers with their fathers
Children also wear the traditional dagger called the jambiya, made from rhino horn for the wealthiest. In a local market, this Saudi merchant holds a 100 000 US dollars antique jambiya with rhino horn handle that he keeps in a huge safe. People are not aware of the rhino poaching crisis.It is a tradition to offer a wreath to visitors in Asir
Flower sellers still make these gifts to the rare tourists who reach this region, But soon, with the Saudi Vision 2030 project led by Mohammed ben Salmane that plans to bring millions of visitors to the Kingdom, this nice tradition will likely fade away. Anyone can write on Bored Panda. Start writing! Follow Bored Panda on Google News! Follow us on Flipboard.com/@boredpanda! 26Kviews Share on Facebook Eric Lafforgue Follow Unfollow Eric Lafforgue Author, Community member Ever since he was young, he has been fascinated by far away countries and travelling, and spent some time when he was 10 years old in Djibouti, Ethiopia and Yemen.He started taking photographs in 2006. Quickly, magazines and newspapers from all over the world like Geo, Nat Geo, Lonely Planet Magazine, etc began using his work for illustrations on North Korea, Papua ... 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Yes. Has it improved a lot in the recent years? Absolutely, and they are still working on it. As a foreign woman that works there very often, I have never felt discriminated against. I have been in high profile meetings where my opinion was listened to and respected. I've gotten more gender discrimination from a German partner at my firm than my Saudi clients. 18 18points reply Load More Replies... Xatia L Xatia L Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I’ve worked in Saudi for 4 and a half years and I agree. Never had an issue here due to my gender. Things are definitely changing for the better for the local women though and it’s been great to see the effects of that. 6 6points reply boredpanDaman boredpanDaman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago nice of you bringing this up 0 0points reply Zobi123 Zobi123 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. That is quite a privelege you have. -4 -4points reply Full Name Full Name Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago How about focusing on what the article is actually about? EVERYTHING has something wrong with it but we'll get nowhere if we only concentrate on those things. The best way to achieve progress is to start with what brings us together. To start off with "well fuck them" isn't helping. 9 9points reply 2-10-11 2-10-11 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago The treatment of women and non Saudi guest workers in the kingdom is not a small issue, nor is the power that they use to control other nations. Perhaps we can say yes those are pretty flowers and you look lovely, but now how about letting a lady buy a flower too? 11 11points reply boredpanDaman boredpanDaman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago the "treatment" you are mentioning, especially of guest workers, but also of women, comes from the govt'/king, not these ordinary people. who told you a lady cannot buy flowers?? 5 5points reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago The article. We're not allowed in the market space. 1 1point reply Xatia L Xatia L Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Women are allowed in the market. I’ve been to many in my years working in Saudi Arabia. In this particular region women don’t sell things in the market but they can shop. 1 1point reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago So... put the blinders back on? Hell no. 1 1point reply boredpanDaman boredpanDaman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago where do you base your assumption? on hollywood movies? on our western desire to consider everyone else as savages? on your own frustration? 3 3points reply unknown unknown unknown unknown Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago oh for real? How long did you live there ? Or do you just get all you knowledge about other countries from the news. 3 3points reply hawra alnabi hawra alnabi Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Maybe you should visit before you talk about what you don't know.... until you do so, you shouldn't give your opinion. 1 1point reply Lou Wow Lou Wow Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Rest assured though. They look ridiculous. -18 -18points reply Susan L. Miller Susan L. Miller Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago Real men wear flowers! 14 14points reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago Real men let women wear flowers. 2 2points reply Load More Replies... Xatia L Xatia L Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago It says right in the article that “women wear flowers too, mostly at home” 2 2points reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago Oh my god. Nitpicker. Fine I'll rephrase. Real men have no problem with women wearing and selling flowers in the market place while their cleavage is showing because they realise full well women have equal rights. -1 -1point reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago No wait. That implies I'd actually let a guy stop me from doing something I want to do. Real men have no problem with women wearing flowers. -1 -1point reply Monty Glue Monty Glue Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago Who can fault a guy for just wanting to look pretty? I'm amazed they tolerate that in the kingdom though. A few years ago some Italian guys visited and they were deported because they were so handsome the mutaween (religious police) said they would induce lustful thoughts in innocent citizens. So out they went. 12 12points reply Jo Bebe Jo Bebe Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago "No women can be seen in those markets, it is a male business." - This is why I don't like the "kingdom" if you can call it that. Let alone their stupid "constitution" (if you can call it that) is terrible as it is all based on religion 17 17points reply Load More Replies... Zaynab Sheriff Zaynab Sheriff Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago I feel like its really injust to say its 'based on religion' as you've claimed. No doubt their treatment of women is absolutely ABHORRENT, its due tpo this culture that has stemmed from a women being seen as lower class when compared to the male counterpart. I do know plenty of Muslim women, and I too once had the very same thoughts you have stated, but I know believe the truth of the sinful treatment women are subjected too, and are in fact supported by a corrupt and vicious govenment that is refusing to change and to elevate the rights of the vulnerable, instead content to paint a man's world. In a religion which is one of the largest and appeals to many, that has elevated the status of a woman to the extent that as a daughter she is her fathers pathway to paradise, as a wife, she completes half of her faith, and as a mother, her status is elevated to the extent that paradise lies under her feet, with the responsibility of her kind and just treatment being compulsory, the denying of 5 5points reply Zaynab Sheriff Zaynab Sheriff Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago (edited) READ THE BELOW COMMENT FIRST it sinful, how then can Saudi Arabia's practices of ERASING and HATING women possibly be called "based on religion." If you mean baed on religion as in the whitewashing and propaganda labelling it as such, then that is a different case. 3 3points reply Mari Mari Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago It's not based on religion, women has to be treatend with respect in islam. The idea of islam is to protect the women. Cultural paternal traditions misused this to overpower the women. The last years there are efforts to change the mentality, this will take time. It takes always a few generations to accept changes and mentality. 0 0points reply unknown unknown unknown unknown Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago you know that never happened right? That was a hoax "news" story, there is not a religious police bothering people anymore 5 5points reply Load More Comments POST Christina Sersif Christina Sersif Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago (edited) It's nice, but they treat women like property so until they catch up with feminism and just treating women like actual human beings I don't really have an opinion aside from it's nice 24 24points reply Liz Valle Liz Valle Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago Is there improvement in women's rights to be made? Yes. Has it improved a lot in the recent years? Absolutely, and they are still working on it. As a foreign woman that works there very often, I have never felt discriminated against. I have been in high profile meetings where my opinion was listened to and respected. I've gotten more gender discrimination from a German partner at my firm than my Saudi clients. 18 18points reply Load More Replies... Xatia L Xatia L Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I’ve worked in Saudi for 4 and a half years and I agree. Never had an issue here due to my gender. Things are definitely changing for the better for the local women though and it’s been great to see the effects of that. 6 6points reply boredpanDaman boredpanDaman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago nice of you bringing this up 0 0points reply Zobi123 Zobi123 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. That is quite a privelege you have. -4 -4points reply Full Name Full Name Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago How about focusing on what the article is actually about? EVERYTHING has something wrong with it but we'll get nowhere if we only concentrate on those things. The best way to achieve progress is to start with what brings us together. To start off with "well fuck them" isn't helping. 9 9points reply 2-10-11 2-10-11 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago The treatment of women and non Saudi guest workers in the kingdom is not a small issue, nor is the power that they use to control other nations. Perhaps we can say yes those are pretty flowers and you look lovely, but now how about letting a lady buy a flower too? 11 11points reply boredpanDaman boredpanDaman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago the "treatment" you are mentioning, especially of guest workers, but also of women, comes from the govt'/king, not these ordinary people. who told you a lady cannot buy flowers?? 5 5points reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago The article. We're not allowed in the market space. 1 1point reply Xatia L Xatia L Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Women are allowed in the market. I’ve been to many in my years working in Saudi Arabia. In this particular region women don’t sell things in the market but they can shop. 1 1point reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago So... put the blinders back on? Hell no. 1 1point reply boredpanDaman boredpanDaman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago where do you base your assumption? on hollywood movies? on our western desire to consider everyone else as savages? on your own frustration? 3 3points reply unknown unknown unknown unknown Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago oh for real? How long did you live there ? Or do you just get all you knowledge about other countries from the news. 3 3points reply hawra alnabi hawra alnabi Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Maybe you should visit before you talk about what you don't know.... until you do so, you shouldn't give your opinion. 1 1point reply Lou Wow Lou Wow Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Rest assured though. They look ridiculous. -18 -18points reply Susan L. Miller Susan L. Miller Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago Real men wear flowers! 14 14points reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago Real men let women wear flowers. 2 2points reply Load More Replies... Xatia L Xatia L Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago It says right in the article that “women wear flowers too, mostly at home” 2 2points reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago Oh my god. Nitpicker. Fine I'll rephrase. Real men have no problem with women wearing and selling flowers in the market place while their cleavage is showing because they realise full well women have equal rights. -1 -1point reply 13 13 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago No wait. That implies I'd actually let a guy stop me from doing something I want to do. Real men have no problem with women wearing flowers. -1 -1point reply Monty Glue Monty Glue Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago Who can fault a guy for just wanting to look pretty? I'm amazed they tolerate that in the kingdom though. A few years ago some Italian guys visited and they were deported because they were so handsome the mutaween (religious police) said they would induce lustful thoughts in innocent citizens. So out they went. 12 12points reply Jo Bebe Jo Bebe Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago "No women can be seen in those markets, it is a male business." - This is why I don't like the "kingdom" if you can call it that. Let alone their stupid "constitution" (if you can call it that) is terrible as it is all based on religion 17 17points reply Load More Replies... Zaynab Sheriff Zaynab Sheriff Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago I feel like its really injust to say its 'based on religion' as you've claimed. No doubt their treatment of women is absolutely ABHORRENT, its due tpo this culture that has stemmed from a women being seen as lower class when compared to the male counterpart. I do know plenty of Muslim women, and I too once had the very same thoughts you have stated, but I know believe the truth of the sinful treatment women are subjected too, and are in fact supported by a corrupt and vicious govenment that is refusing to change and to elevate the rights of the vulnerable, instead content to paint a man's world. In a religion which is one of the largest and appeals to many, that has elevated the status of a woman to the extent that as a daughter she is her fathers pathway to paradise, as a wife, she completes half of her faith, and as a mother, her status is elevated to the extent that paradise lies under her feet, with the responsibility of her kind and just treatment being compulsory, the denying of 5 5points reply Zaynab Sheriff Zaynab Sheriff Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago (edited) READ THE BELOW COMMENT FIRST it sinful, how then can Saudi Arabia's practices of ERASING and HATING women possibly be called "based on religion." If you mean baed on religion as in the whitewashing and propaganda labelling it as such, then that is a different case. 3 3points reply Mari Mari Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago It's not based on religion, women has to be treatend with respect in islam. The idea of islam is to protect the women. Cultural paternal traditions misused this to overpower the women. The last years there are efforts to change the mentality, this will take time. It takes always a few generations to accept changes and mentality. 0 0points reply unknown unknown unknown unknown Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 years ago you know that never happened right? That was a hoax "news" story, there is not a religious police bothering people anymore 5 5points reply Load More Comments Popular on Bored Panda I Used AI To See What These 23 Popular Cartoon Characters Would Look Like In Real Life 30 Y.O. 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