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23 Y O Son Tells His Parents He ll Never Speak To Them Again After Finding Out They re Paying For Sister s Education Yet Didn t Pay For His

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BoredPanda staff Receiving proper education is one of the major achievements in a person's life. For a lot of young people, especially those who are academically gifted, it is very important to be able to get into a college or university that can provide them with high-quality education, challenge them, and offer plenty of opportunities. Very often one of the upcoming challenges in this path is finding enough funds to cover university tuition and other expenses. Sometimes parents are the ones that offer to lend a helping hand as they are very concerned about their kids getting a proper education. One Reddit user decided to share his painful experience by revealing that not all parents are willing to provide their kids with the necessary means to start their academic journey. More Info: Reddit

Getting into your dream school or university is one of the greatest achievements

Image credits: University of Essex (not the actual photo) The narrator started his story by stating that his parents always emphasized the importance of hard work and getting good grades. Often times they would mention someone who was studying at an Ivy League school, and how he should take these people as a good example. The man did his best in school and was accepted to one of the top universities that are on the Ivy League list. The user who is now a 23-year-old man remembered the day he got accepted and how emotional he was knowing that he made it to the top. Having in mind how important education is for his parents, the man was sure that they would be very happy with the news.

One Reddit user decided to share how his family made him to decline his offer received from one of the Ivy League schools because they couldn t afford it

Image credits: parents_lied__ What happened next shocked the man as his parents told him that he would have to decline his invitation as they had no means to pay for his tuition. The user remembers that his parents even showed him their budget so that he could see for himself that they would not be able to afford his school expenses. The man shared that this happened back in 2016 when he was a 17-year-old who, even at that young age, realized that they really couldn't cover his tuition. Image credits: parents_lied__ This situation led him to go to a state university where he received his bachelor's and master's degree in computer science, after which he ended up getting a job at one of the FAANG companies. It's fair to say that the narrator's hard work paid off even without him getting into a prestigious university. But what enraged him was the situation he found himself in recently.

After finding out that his parents couldn t pay for the university he had to apply to one of the state schools as it was cheaper

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Through the years the man successfully finished his studies and landed a job at one of the FAANG companies

Image credits: parents_lied__ The man has a 17-year-old sister who called him one day with good news. She was also accepted into one of the Ivy League schools. The brother congratulated the sister but asked her if their parents also made her decline the acceptance as it happened to him. The young woman shared that the dad told her not to worry about it as they would pay for her education. The brother was devastated to hear this after being told that they couldn't afford to pay for his school.

Recently the man found out that his sister was also accepted to one of the Ivy League schools

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The man was in shock after finding out that parents decided to pay for her education after they made him decline the offer

Image credits: parents_lied__ It might seem that now the parents are in a better position financially to be able to provide their daughter with the possibility to go to her dream school. But the man soon understood that back in 2016, his dad already worked for one of the FAANG companies and also had the financials to allow him to go to the university of his choice. This made him really upset, especially when he confronted his parents about this. This all ended in an argument and the narrator's threat to never speak with them again. Image credits: parents_lied__

This situation resulted in an argument after which the narrator threatened not to speak with his parents ever again

Image credits: parents_lied__ A lot of people online tried to come up with a possible explanation for why his parents decided to help his sister but not him. Some needed more information about the situation as they couldn't understand why some other options of getting into the university weren't thought of. Others online suggested that the man should've known about their financial situation because they had to provide this information when he was applying for a federal loan to attend a state university. The narrator replied by saying that at that time, he didn't think about it too much and that his parents took care of that part of the documentation. What is your opinion on this situation? Don't forget to leave your thoughts in the comments down below!

People online became very involved in the story as they were trying to understand the reason why the parents did this to their son

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Education should be free. We have No problems with it being free in Denmark... and we get paid to attend... 93 93points reply Load More Replies... Anna April-Ross Anna April-Ross Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago You are paying for it with your taxes. Nothing is free. Even in Denmark. 7 7points reply Shane Little Shane Little Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Hurdle number one Denmark population: 5.5 million US population: 330 million 6 6points reply Sarra R Sarra R Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago (edited) @Shane Little: The greater amount of people paying in to help each other, be it medical or school, the less they have to pay. Two people dividing $100 is $50 each. Five people dividing $100 is $20 each. So it's not a hurdle. It's actually much more affordable 20 20points reply Nona Wolf Nona Wolf Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago (edited) So five people have to pay for a service - but only one person gets the benefit? Would you be willing to pay for my house while you live in the street? Would you be willing to pay for my car while you have to ride the bus? 3 3points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago Wow... No wonder all your wildfires burn so long. Nobody coughing up a dime for fire department unless their OWN houses are on fire. This explains SO much about that country. 3 3points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago Everyone benefits from the fire department. Only you benefit from your education. One fire department can’t fight a wildfire. That’s a group effort, and again, everyone benefits from that. You can’t even create an apples to apples comparison, so you wouldn’t get into college anyway. -1 -1point reply Devan Delano Devan Delano Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago Society as a whole benefits when its members are educated. 1 1point reply Jodi Von Seggern Jodi Von Seggern Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago Like roads, fire departments, k-12 schools, environmental protections, ports, etc. They benefit us all! You will make use of tax supported things others don't use. What things do you use that you should give up to not be hypocrite? a 1 1point reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago No, we all use roads, the fire department, environmental protection, ports, and k-12 education. Not everyone uses college. You want to go? Fine. You pay for it. Period. 0 0points reply 33Possums 33Possums Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago A large percentage of the population in the US pays little or no taxes. 1 1point reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago Tell me you’re terrible at math without telling me you’re terrible at math. Higher population means more people going. It’s not the same amount of people going divided by more people paying. It’s not everyone else’s responsibility to “help” pay YOUR bills. I paid for my college. I pay for my healthcare. YOU pay for YOUR healthcare or don’t have it. YOU pay for YOUR college or don’t go. I didn’t sacrifice to earn a good living and pay for my education to be taxed to death to support you. 0 0points reply Greta Hoostal Greta Hoostal Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago (edited) @Sarra R: Nona Wolf has a point. We’d better divide the Ivy Leaguer’s salary 5 ways too. $80,000 to start, $16,000 each. https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-type/bachelors/ivy-league-schools 0 0points reply Joe Edwards Joe Edwards Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 6 months ago And? It's all about taxes, Americans don't care about anyone but themselves. 3 3points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago America isn’t a socialist country. Other people’s bills aren’t my problem and it’s always the people who contribute NOTHING who whine about what the rest of us allegedly owed them that!/ paid for off our backs. I didn’t sacrifice to get an education, build a career, and earn a good living, so I could pay for the poor life choices of other people. 0 0points reply P Webb P Webb Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago Not a hurdle. Fewer people means fewer taxpayers. 3 3points reply Popescu Adina Popescu Adina Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 6 months ago Fewer people means also fewer expenses that would require that tax money... it all evens out regardless of how many people there are. 3 3points reply Chris Cashman Chris Cashman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago But @Pernille Dyre - Are private institutions in Denmark also free, or just the state ones? The Ivy League schools here are private institutions. 4 4points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago NOTHING is “free” in Denmark or anywhere else. Exorbitant taxes pays for it. 0 0points reply Brenda Jacobs Brenda Jacobs Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago Nothing is free. Someone(s) are paying for it. Your delusional if you believe its free. 3 3points reply Gabrielle B. Marcelo Gabrielle B. Marcelo Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago if nothing is free why is free even a word?-my 6yo brother. 9 9points reply Michael Harper Michael Harper Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago Misnomer, look it up 0 0points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago Socialists are delusional. Delusional disorders are a requirement to back socialist ideology. 0 0points reply Nona Wolf Nona Wolf Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago It's not free - you pay for it with taxes (which are 41% higher than taxes in America) 2 2points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago ...not to mention progressive, so people on limited income are not unnecessarily burdened while the rich swim around in their millions and light cigars with benjamins to show off on instagram. Of course to any moral being that would make murica a horrific place to actually live, which is exactly why it is. Meanwhile Denmark is one of the most idyllic places on the planet and takes amazing care of its population. Compare murican veteran life to Danish homeless life if you want. Be sure to ask the veteran and the homeless person about their lives. I promise you'll be astonished :) 0 0points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago If being rich is so easy then why don’t people like you just go become rich instead of trying to stick your hands in their pockets to pay your bills? “The rich” owe you NOTHING. It’s cute you think stealing from other people to support you is moral. People in Denmark are taxed at a RIDICULOUS rate. 0 0points reply Jodi Von Seggern Jodi Von Seggern Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago Not really Add in state taxes, sales taxes, fees and 99% of all healthcare & dental expenses including premiums & all co-pays. At that point we actually pay FAR more! Don't lie to yourself. Go compare budgets to someone with your job in nearly any other OECD country. 0 0points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago No, no we don’t. You’ll die waiting for their rationed healthcare there where the government decides whether you can live or die. 0 0points reply Jodi Von Seggern Jodi Von Seggern Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago Forgot you need to self fund insurance too--huge! 0 0points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago So? You should fund your own insurance. Why should your insurance be my responsibility? 0 0points reply Sandra Leek Sandra Leek Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 6 months ago Denmark is not America. Nothing is free. Someone is always paying. 2 2points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago Incorrect. Someone is always SHARING. 0 0points reply David Buller David Buller Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 6 months ago The real issue is who will pay for the education. In Denmark, huge taxes on the middle class enables this eucational benefit. In one Scandinavian couintry, the marginal tax rate on $35,000 income is 75%. Imagine the uproar if the U.S. tried to impose that tax system. BTW, the typical marginal tax rate in the US is effectively zero for 35K after dedcutions and credits. 2 2points reply Cathy Cathy Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 6 months ago (edited) @david buller; Maybe I'm not understanding correctly but 75% tax on a 35.000 income is a lie. I live in the Netherlands, middle income and I pay 32% 2 2points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago 32% is still OUTRAGEOUS. 0 0points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago ...which is very high for that income bracket, considering commissions tax is only 34%. Muricans need to learn the meaning of the word society and stop bitching about rights if they're not willing to pool their resources to enable a government that can actually provide those rights 0 0points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago The meaning of the word “society” isn’t stealing from people via government sanctioned theft to support people who don’t contribute. You have ZERO right to free healthcare or free college. 0 0points reply One Voice One Voice Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 6 months ago (edited) How much are your taxes? You're still paying forit, just not up front. 2 2points reply Daniel Evans Daniel Evans Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Wrong. It should be cheaper but not free. 90% of people pursue an education to get a better paying job. That should cost money unless non educated jobs payed the same and then I would agree with you. 2 2points reply Ry Guy Ry Guy Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago It does cost them money. When the person gets a higher paying job they end up paying more in taxes. 4 4points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago No, it’s not “free” in Denmark. Exorbitant tax rates pays for it. Nothing is free. People who don’t go to college shouldn’t have to fund your education. 0 0points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago No such thing as “free” education. Exorbitant taxes pays for it. I’m not paying outrageous taxes for someone else’s college. Your education=your bill. 0 0points reply Alfredo Contreras Alfredo Contreras Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago You... You get what? I need to move there no matter the cost! 0 0points reply Thechihila Wiwasteka Thechihila Wiwasteka Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Absolutely not. Anything free in North America is not appreciated. I’ve been to 3 universities at different times and you could see who was paying their own way and who had mommy and daddy paying. 0 0points reply Celsius Celsius Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. You got that right. Pay your way and quit expecting free ride! -19 -19points reply ing san ing san Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. what you call paid is barely covering the rent, if you were so lucky to score a dorm room after you passed the first semester and we have a ton of problems with budget cuts at the universities and the craziness to outsource education to the countryside and then forcing the established institutions to cut back on students that can get into the education they wish does not make Denmark look better then we are. By the way, American collages do way more to help students who struggle for various reasons -7 -7points reply Chris D Chris D Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Free just equals higher taxes for all, I don't have kids, and I am not paying for everyone else to go to college. NOPE. You want college, you pay. People need to stop expecting everyone else to pay for them. NOTHING IS FREE PEOPLE. IT COMES FROM TAXES. Get that through your thick ass skulls. NOTHING IS FREE, it's paid for through TAXES!! -10 -10points reply shane funkhouser shane funkhouser Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Yeah you get free education, I've been all over the world with the military and I've seen all these countries with free education. Know what I've noticed? All these people with degrees who can't find jobs in their field of study. As for American education. Yes it should be cheaper. The schools are as corrupt as the medical fields and government. But if so many people weren't taking useless fields of study in an already saturated field they wouldn't be having so many problems finding employment and paying for their education. The problem isn't really the cost it's that they choose to study something they have virtually no chance of finding gainful employment in because there are already to many people in that field. -14 -14points reply Craig Schulz Craig Schulz Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Its funny that people cry & whine about free education but don't realize it has to be paid by someone. Hence, thats why taxes are much higher in Europe ( has much as 60%);. The trade off is lower taxes or higher taxes. Free education or paying for education. -16 -16points reply Tiredofpayingforothers Tiredofpayingforothers Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. You won't think so after you graduate and start paying 75% of your paycheck in taxes. -16 -16points reply Celsius Celsius Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. That's why you flip burgers. Moron. -35 -35points reply Jennifer Beggs Jennifer Beggs Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is stupid. This is for Ivy League college... people from around the world come to those schools and they aren't free for anyone. UK has Oxford and that's not free either. If I could think of a school in ANY other country that were half as prestigious, that wouldn't be free either. 7 7points reply Chris Chris Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago In Germany RWTH Aachen and TU Munich are free to attend and certainly comparable to Ivy League in the US 15 15points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago (edited) Nosadseven does have a point.... Nobody gets shot on German campuses. Nobody gets forced to wade through a river because entitled children are boycotting a public bridge. Nobody assaults the staff, everyone has a living wage and a pension from professors to the gardeners and janitorial staff, nobody would DARE be so selfish as to demand "safe spaces", and even the food is regulated better than literally anywhere in murica. The educators are at the top of their field rather than the bottom of the employment pool, so no, it's certainly not comparable. Personally I wouldn't send my DOG to a murican school. I've been in the French Dutch English and murican educational systems for several years each (diplomat family) and I promise you, murica is the odd one out. -2 -2points reply [email protected] [email protected] Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Umm... No they're not. ??? -10 -10points reply CJ Taggart CJ Taggart Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Lol that's because Germany can afford the butter cause the US taxpayers pay for Germany's guns. ? -12 -12points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago You misspelled 'preposterous', but I agree that marketing budget must be VERY hard to keep up with, given it's a lie worthy of trump or mcconnell. -3 -3points reply Greta Hoostal Greta Hoostal Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago At least we can spell “America”. -2 -2points reply CanadianPanda CanadianPanda Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I agreed! OP sounds Asian, I am one and they didn't pay for my younger brother's tuition either but they did pay mine when I went 20 years ago. He didn't take any offence to it as he ended up being successful Manager himself and proudly I'd say he's much more responsible financially than I am. 6 6points reply DAVE rodriguez DAVE rodriguez Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago the education is free but not the paperwork or name of the school 1 1point reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago No, it’s not “free.” Nothing is free. 0 0points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago There’s no such thing as “free” education. Exorbitant tax rates pays for it. I’m not paying ridiculous taxes to find other people’s college. Your education=your bill. 0 0points reply [email protected] [email protected] Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. The cost is not for the education. The cost at most is for the four year pleasure cruise the schools are selling to entice students. In the Ivys, the cost is for the connections with the right people, and keeping out the rabble. Just look at who any famous Ivy Leaguer's roommate was in college. You'll know them, too. -7 -7points reply William Walton William Walton Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Who should pay for it instead? -17 -17points reply Tina B Tina B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago The economy that benefits from it. 30 30points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago Clear, concise, to the point, and SAVAGE. Tina B, you are my kind of human. CHAPEAU! -2 -2points reply R L R L Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago There is no guarantee that a person will stay in the country they are educated in. In SA tertiary education is not free, but we also have a vast population who feel they are entitled to have everything given to them on a silver platter, even if they can afford it. -3 -3points reply Joanne Lawrence Joanne Lawrence Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago Canada charges international students about double what citizens pay to attend postsecondary here, but you're basically guaranteed Canadian permanent residency upon graduation if you want it. It's by far the easiest way to immigrate to Canada, IMO, and it means we tend to attract students who already want to stay. It's really a huge win all around. 6 6points reply Mark Mandel Mark Mandel Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago R L When you write SA are you talking about South America or South Australia? 2 2points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago (edited) Your last name and no clue there's a place called South Africa, even though Invictus, Elysium, District 9, Charlize Theron, Trevor Noah, and a bevy of other of your cultural icons are from there. WOW. This is why education is important, and the cost pays for itself in the long term. The money you waste on your military serves only to enrich your most backward and selfobsessed, and provides nothing but firepits and veteran suicide rate so high the phrase "thank you for your service" is BITINGLY ironic. -2 -2points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago It’s cute you don’t think everyone has heard of South America. Your definition of “cultural icon” is very liberal. Everyone gets a free k-12 education in America, and we don’t waste it studying your pathetic ideas of “cultural icons.” You’re awfully brave talking about anything you allege is going on in America considering what white South Africans to to black South Africans. 0 0points reply NL Lesh NL Lesh Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago Margaret Weaver: SA = South Africa? Nope. FYI ~ The country's name is actually ~ Republic of South Africa... 0 0points reply Celsius Celsius Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Punk bitches. -15 -15points reply Chris D Chris D Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. high taxes then -6 -6points reply Cassandra Wilson Cassandra Wilson Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago The amount of debt that we take on as Americas for college is not a worldwide thing. I believe it is Norway.... Google Norway's college costs 6 6points reply Erin Harrison Erin Harrison Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment has been deleted. 2 2points reply Candie Nemesys Candie Nemesys Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Well, here in Argentina everyone can go to college and the top universities from the whole country are public and free:) private universities are subpar compared to our public ones. USA is still s**t with their education 29 29points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago It’s not “free.” Exorbitant taxes pays for it. 0 0points reply Candie Nemesys Candie Nemesys Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago This comment has been deleted. 0 0points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago (edited) Psssst... look at their media. The education system -- arguably more correctly spelled 'dyseducation' given the cost-to-value ratio -- is not actually trying to produce educated voters. It is trying to produce volatile simpletons that will buy what they are told to, get angry at what they're told to, swallow whatever they're fed, and abandon any level of rational thinking when button A or B are pushed. Button A is god, button B is country. Just as destructive, simplistic and inhumane as blood & honour, god & country is really just a marketing slogan. Notice the similarities between one crowd shouting yoo-ess-say and holding up a copy of the second amendment, and another crowd shouting allahu akbar and holding up a copy of the Qur'an. Same rage, same hatred, same level of intellect. They even treat their women the same, although in some states women are still allowed to vote, I hear. ....For now, at least. Much as they try to frighten everyone about islam, the white taliban is worse. -1 -1point reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago I know! Because how DARE we demand our second amendment RIGHTS, right? Lol! If you think demanding our rights makes us uneducated then you are what you’re accusing us of being. 0 0points reply Jennifer Beggs Jennifer Beggs Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Name ONE school in Argentina that anyone has heard of.... right. Good luck with that terrifying govt of yours. -10 -10points reply Katie McCready Katie McCready Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago You should be a lot more terrified of your own government (with either party in power). America incarcerates more of its own people (by percentage of the population) than any other country in the world, and that includes North Korea, China, Saudi Arabia and Iraq. And lack of decent education is a major reason why. 13 13points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago So? What’s your point? How DARE we imprison people for being criminals, right? People who turn to crime CHOOSE not to take advantage of the educational opportunities that are afforded to everyone. Crime = lots of fast money. Doing the right thing = years and years of delayed gratification. 0 0points reply Celsius Celsius Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Which is why USA bails you idiots out of your most recent screw up. And they're stupid. Argentina...a garbage can. -16 -16points reply Michelle Mullins Michelle Mullins Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. I will take the education in the US anyday over living in a socialist s**t hole country. Why is 25% of your population below poverty level? Nobodys education is gonna be worth anything, if they are dead from chemical warfare. Who is protecting you? Your army? Covid is just the tip of the iceberg. -16 -16points reply Katie McCready Katie McCready Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I guess the American education system has stopped teaching basics like punctuation. I’d ask for my money back if I were you. 11 11points reply Jennifer Beggs Jennifer Beggs Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Google Norway's population while youre at it. 1 1point reply Candie Nemesys Candie Nemesys Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago Oh my... I guess my point still stands that USA is still s**t with education if they don't even teach you basic manners and how to engage with others in conversation. Perhaps i didn't make myself clear since obviously my first language isn't English, but i wasn't insulting your universities but pointing out how shitty the SYSTEM is since you get in huge debts to be properly educated when good education should be available for everyone. And just fyi, a lot of world top architects, doctors and engineers are argentinian and have graduated from our universities. 5 5points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago You pay EXORBITANT taxes for your entire adult life to pay for other people’s education. Just paying for our own education is exponentially cheaper. The only people who struggle to pay student debt in America are people who CHOSE a major that has NO professional value, so they can’t earn a living. That was their CHOICE. They saddled up that horse, so they can ride it. 0 0points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago We don't need to. We went to a proper school and know the population number has nothing to do with how their people vote, which is how their government gets in empowered to build such a marvelous and idyllic nation. Oh, and by the by, that weird sky comma in don't is called an apostrophe. Google that instead. -1 -1point reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago “Marvelous idyllic nation”. That’s funny. I’d rather be dead than live in your over taxed hell hole. 0 0points reply Erin Harrison Erin Harrison Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment has been deleted. 1 1point reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago Google Norway’s tax rate. I’m not paying for your college. 0 0points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago (edited) Norway's tertiary education is free. Even for foreigners if they agree to work there for ... three years, I believe it was? Small price to pay for that amazing an education from a country you have no allegiance or dues to. 0 0points reply Shawn Carter Shawn Carter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. All those countries that provide free college education, Google their defense budget and Google the US defense budget. Yes, you will have a lot of money to play with when someone else is shouldering the burden of keeping you and many other nations, safe. -13 -13points reply Celsius Celsius Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Quit whining. You pay for an education to make money. Like buying a business. Don't pay 200k for a taco truck, stupid. -15 -15points reply Bret Gales Bret Gales Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Yer mom -19 -19points reply Celsius Celsius Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. You guys are weak. Pay your own way, punk bitches. -30 -30points reply Keith O Keith O Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Mom and dad weren't together, mom had to fight dad to set up an account for me due to excessive bonuses he got each year rather than take him back to court to fight for more support. Dad buys me a junky used car out of said account which neither me nor my mom had access to. Dad refuses to give me remainder of account when I turned 18 so I could pay for school, books, fraternity dues, etc. Refuses to pay for anything else unless I provide receipts, for said books, etc. even though it was supposed to be "my" money. Sister gets a car when she gets license, offered to send second younger sister to Australia for a music program, two younger adopted brothers both get stupidly jacked up and expensive trucks, etc. No I no longer speak to my father. This s**t is real when parents screw you over. Good for you. They didn't treat you fairly, they treated you as lesser than, so cut them out. 138 138points reply Mazer Mazer Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Spot on!! Sorry your peeps did not support you, good on you for cutting ties! I did the same, best decision I ever made 70 70points reply Load More Replies... Klaatu Verrata (Cough) Klaatu Verrata (Cough) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago (edited) Wow. My father refused to spend a dime on me for ANYTHING, including child support (they split when I was 2 months old--they decided I'd live with my mom, my brother with my dad). So I totally get this. I've been in therapy for years over my upbringing, including having a father who refuses to acknowledge the many ways he left me to live in squalor, with tremendous mental and physical abuse and neglect. He refuses to acknowledge ANY OF IT, although he DID say he never bonded with me so that's why he doesn't love me. (As a parent of 3, I can't imagine EVER doing these things to a child--especially a very vulnerable, abused one). So your story really resonates. Ironically, despite it all, I'm quite successful--his other spoiled kids? Meh. But I'm also still in weekly therapy for CPTSD (which includes military trauma and tons of childhood trauma). Parents who don't love and care for the children they brought into this world absolutely deserve to rot in hell. 18 18points reply Hasbullah Vida Hasbullah Vida Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Dont worry they have a special place for that kind of parents.. 8 8points reply Mahogany Eclipse Mahogany Eclipse Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I wouldn't have anything to do with him either! What a total jerk 15 15points reply KT KT Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I feel your pain, I was the black sheep of my family and treated like pond scum while my siblings were showered with gifts , trips etc. 13 13points reply Catherine VanAusdall Catherine VanAusdall Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Good for you! Stand your ground, you dont need that kind of energy in your life ? 6 6points reply Darnell Thompson Darnell Thompson Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I only have a daughter and I can tell you this your father with all due respect to you is the biggest piece of s*** in the f****** world to me bless you I hope you go through this world not letting that weigh heavy on your heart 5 5points reply William Walton William Walton Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Parents are just people too Man, i feel your pain and have much of my own, just keep telling myself that they are just people too ya know, helps?‍ 1 1point reply Kenechukwu Kenechukwu Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Hi 0 0points reply Andrew Barrett Andrew Barrett Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. It's Sad how our youth have gotten so entitled. When you get older you'll see that finances can change drastically in only a span 5 years. Please realize college is not owed to you as you go off at 18 you are legally an adult. Maybe you could have worked and bought your own car. Maybe your Dad disagreed with how your mom or you and your mom spent his portion of the money. He obviously did enough to help you get accepted to school. Realize this the money he may have to have started investing might be worth more to you than college when you don't have to spend your future money trying to raise kids and paying for parent care. Get over yourself he doesn't owe you anything. Your parents don't owe you, the world doesn't owe you anything -make the most of what you have been given, be thankful and do well with your life! -10 -10points reply P Webb P Webb Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago (edited) You can talk about entitlement all you want, but when parents pay for everything for one kid and nothing for the other, that's just wrong. 14 14points reply 33Possums 33Possums Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago Parents do owe the children they bring into the world. Parents who choose one child over another should not have had a second child. 10 10points reply Lydia Ishaya-Audu Lydia Ishaya-Audu Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Forgive your Dad for your own sake. Bitterness and unforgiveness hurt you more than the other person -11 -11points reply Angel Rose Angel Rose Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago (edited) Nah, it won't. Those things don't hurt you at all if make good choices with them. I wonder why people buy into that woowoo that having negative experiences that you chose to acknowledged and deal with is bad for you. ALL emotions are valid even bitterness. Assholes need to be cut outta your life. Parents are no exception. They are not gods - they are humans. No human who hadn't repented of their bad way deserves anything - not even forgiveness. We don't owe anyone anything. We only get one life. So it sounds like brainwashing to keep people under the thumb of an abuser when people say to do otherwise like forgive your abuser and keep the relationship. 22 22points reply Henry Williams Henry Williams Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago All emotions are valid, but your logic is very flawed. If you were crying from sadness, would you want to never get over it? Cry yourself to death? Why would you recommend someone holds onto negative feelings? It makes no sense!! 2 2points reply Janet Blasingame Janet Blasingame Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Just bcuz someone cuts someone who hurt them out of their life, doesn't mean they hold onto negative feelings. Often the opposite. I held resentments for my parents while trying to have healthy relationships w/them. Yet they made me feel inadequate & ashamed. I cut them out of my life, began to understand my worth & learned to love myself. I vowed never to subject myself to their narcissistic abuse again. After years of therapy, I don't harbor negative feelings. Instead, I foster positive feelings for myself & simply don't waste energy on them. As time goes by, I feel no real emotions when I think of them, which isn't often. If anything, I pity them. Being estranged from family members is akin to breaking up with an abuser. You do it bcuz you love yourself & realize you deserve better; you don't stay with them bcuz society might judge you. Life's too short to be miserable. We only get one, & I'm living my life the way I want- free of toxic relationships & happy with myself. 7 7points reply Logan Shinall Logan Shinall Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago My take on it (learned through therapy) is that all emotions teach us something. Pain and loss teach us that what is gone was valuable, and to value what we have in the present moment. Anger can teach us that something is wrong, and remembering that anger can teach us to make better choices (for example, not trusting someone who has screwed you over). Jealousy, fear, joy, sorrow, no emotion is good or bad, they become good or bad depending on how you handle them. It's not a matter of holding on to negative feelings, but not putting yourself in a situation where you'll have to deal with the same negative feelings as before (example: not putting yourself in a situation where someone abusive has the power to be abusive again). That's all my opinion/experience, and I'm not an expert by far. 6 6points reply Janet Blasingame Janet Blasingame Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago You have a great therapist! You're right, feelings aren't inherently good or bad. They are meant to deliver a message, sometimes of needed changes. There's nothing wrong with finding your own happiness, even if it takes distancing yourself from others. Toxic relationships should be treated as the poison they are & steered clear of. It's a sign of maturity to know when to walk away. No one asks for your permission to live their life, why should you ask for theirs? If you truly like/love yourself, you'll do your best to protect yourself from dangerous situations. Society doesn't teach us our emotions are valid simply bcuz we are human beings. We're ostracized if we choose to focus on our own well-being. Men are ridiculed for showing emotions, women are criticized. This is why mental illness is so pervasive in the U.S. You may not be an expert, but you've learned from one. Stay loyal to yourself, you're worth it. Accept you have emotions & act accordingly. You're human, after all. 4 4points reply R R Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago Mental illness is caused by the reaction to a person's emotions. You have to be kidding, right? -2 -2points reply P Webb P Webb Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago You are twisting everybody's comments around until they mean something completely different than what they actually said. You REALLY need to stop doing that. It's dishonest! The person didn't say that mental illness was caused by reaction to a person's emotions, they indicated that part of the stigma of mental illness is caused by the fact that people aren't allowed to have or show normal emotions. that's much different than what you just said. 5 5points reply R R Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago Nothing against you but all these platitudes sound great until some real s**t happens. Pain and loss teach what is valuable! Ffs, I buried my only child in August. I already knew his value. It's therapy like this that leaves people unprepared for reality. I don't have the will to go through every scenario but be assured that when sh!t happens those platitudes won't help get you through. At the same time I hope that you will never have chance to test this. -2 -2points reply P Webb P Webb Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago @R I'm so sorry for your loss. That is horrible. But I think you missed the actual point of his comment. Which is that NO emotion or feeling is good or bad. All emotions serve a purpose or teach us something valid. 4 4points reply Kenechukwu Kenechukwu Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Mmm 0 0points reply Mb Ray-k Mb Ray-k Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. What a sense of entitlement. Didn't your parents worked hard to make their money? If you feel entitled to their money, should they be equally entitled to yours? I never felt my parents should support my higher education, nor anything else I did when I became an adult. I am the oldest and my 'entitled' siblings got more because they expected it. I'm not angry about that; my parents have a right spent their money as they wish. Perhaps what you should be complaining about is your ingratitude, rather than your parents distribution choices; I'll bet you don't want people telling you how to spend your money. I'm not surprised that you've chosen not speak to your parents. I can say, you will regret that choice someday. -13 -13points reply Kandee Watson Kandee Watson Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I don't think it's that much about money as it's the fact they lied to him. 14 14points reply Klaatu Verrata (Cough) Klaatu Verrata (Cough) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Did they lie? Maybe they are just in a more financially stable position now. Maybe OP needs to consider that. -6 -6points reply 33Possums 33Possums Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago Read the post. They were not honest with him. 8 8points reply P Webb P Webb Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago No. Or they would have said that. They just stiffened up & told him it was none of his business. So yeah, they lied. If they didn't lie they would have explained it to him because they wouldn't want him to go off believing that they lied and that they like his sister better. 3 3points reply Jodi Von Seggern Jodi Von Seggern Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago Tell us again about not reading (or understanding? the whole post...) 2 2points reply Laura Collins Laura Collins Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago That's fine you shouldn't rely on your parents money once you are a adult. However then the parents should have made it clear we are not going to pay for any of our children's educations. It's wrong! 11 11points reply Retta Bluhm Jones Retta Bluhm Jones Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I agree. I paid my way, working a variety of part time jobs. The students that didn't have to work were incredibly self centered and oblivious to the struggles of those of us that had to support ourselves. 6 6points reply Hasbullah Vida Hasbullah Vida Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment has been deleted. 0 0points reply Cecily Holland Cecily Holland Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Yep been there done that. Except I’m now doing my masters in public health and sibling flunked out of 3 degrees because entitled sibling never had to pay anything 86 86points reply Jennifer Germain Jennifer Germain Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago same thing with my husband, they even tried to kick him out while we was in school and working to pay for it. His younger brother, 3 years university fully paid by parents, never finished, kept failing. works in the trades now, my husband works at that university. 49 49points reply Load More Replies... Jilly Bean Jilly Bean Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago The trades are actually an awesome alternative to the traditional path of going to college, although I get your point that he was entitled and didn't use the education that was given to him to his advantage and took it all for granted...but I would say that anyone who doesn't want student debt hanging over their heads, and can physically do the work, to consider an apprenticeship in the trades. Depending on where you are, the wages are amazing (anywhere from $30-$50 per hour or more for the journeyman wage) My niece just started an electrical apprenticeship and her journey wages when she finishes will be $55 an hour! Again, I'm not taking away from why you wrote that comment, I'm just trying to spread awareness about an alternative route. 22 22points reply LJ Harwood LJ Harwood Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Agree 100% about considering trades. Also we need qualified trades people in our society. Thanks for bringing this idea into the discussion. 6 6points reply Marilyn Russell Marilyn Russell Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 4 months ago Good for her! I always tell young people to get into trades as I wish they encouraged women back when I was a kid. One of my nephews did listen and now does HVAC. 2 2points reply Kim Lorton Kim Lorton Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago Plus, we need more young people in the trades! The education is wonderful, you meet your fair share of butt heads, but also meet some really great people! Plus, you will likely, never be out of a job! 2 2points reply Carl Bailey Carl Bailey Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago A person shouldn't have to be a plumber when they can be a doctor or scientist just because of money. 1 1point reply Marilyn Russell Marilyn Russell Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 4 months ago Ah, we need plumbers etc. in this world just as much as professionals. 2 2points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago Psssssst... plumber IS a profession. ;) Volunteer plumbers are usually just called "son in law" 1 1point reply Kim Lorton Kim Lorton Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago I think, if you want to be a doctor, you will find a way. If that’s your passion and love, go after that dream! Many financial institutions offer grants, based on a career pathway, or a loan based on the same. You just need to go in to them, and ask. They could have criteria you meet. Like a single black female, wanting to study medicine, music etc. . You get the gist. One bank actually printed out all the grants and loans with all the criteria to get it, for me. One was strictly fora female, to study medicine, nursing or to ne a doctor, go to this institution, and they would cover your tuition for your college career. No debt. And, the woman told my mom and me, there , was money that went unused because kids just didn’t know about these grants etc. it is amazing. So, gotta ask the right questions! 2 2points reply Jodi Von Seggern Jodi Von Seggern Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago Would have had to take on $200k-$300k in debt. You are either really, really entitled or on better drugs than we get here if you believe that in the US! 0 0points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago Lots of good replies and comments by people schooling muricans on the lies of the murican media, but this specific one is by far the most important. THIS post, is literally something that should be taught in schools. Very, very well put, Jilly Bean. Chapeau! 0 0points reply Henry Williams Henry Williams Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I will have to agree with the other commenters. You shouldn't use education to mock other people who didn't get it. That's incredibly arrogant and rude. 4 4points reply dew swq dew swq Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Just saying if you take trades average wages and university workers average wages the trades make more so idk the point your trying to make. 4 4points reply Rai Rai Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago (edited) Doesn't it depend on what job you have at the university? And then, if you're in an administrative role, you're definitely going to make more than the average trade worker. Also, depending on which university you're working at and the coursework you're taking on, it easily gets into the hundreds of thousands. Pretty sure since that's literally their brother-in-law they know the pay difference between their husband and the brother. 2 2points reply Kellynn D Kellynn D Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 months ago There's one big difference between trades and education for white collar jobs like business degrees... to be in a trade, means you're still going to school decades after you graduate. Trades require continuous improvement in your knowledge as things change constantly. 1 1point reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago So pilots surgeons anaesthetio-- hang on that can't be right, those are extremely white collars. Ohhhh wait, you're a murican, aren't you? Here's something to colour in, love. Let us know if you need to use the facilit-- sorry, I mean toilet. -2 -2points reply OmBoyGanesh OmBoyGanesh Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 day ago ??? You lifting him up or just here crapping on America??? I don’t think your comment represents you the way your cynical and judgemental mind thinks it does. 0 0points reply Norman Anthony Norman Anthony Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 4 months ago The younger spoiled brother is a perfect example of why the parents shouldn’t pay for the education. If you want something and are willing to work for it, you’re better for it. 0 0points reply Michael Lauinger Michael Lauinger Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. "While we was in school"? It looks like your elementary school failed to do its job... -8 -8points reply Klaatu Verrata (Cough) Klaatu Verrata (Cough) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago She meant to say "while HE was in school". Typo. Get off the soap box. 7 7points reply Jessica Macklemoore Jessica Macklemoore Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Its a typo. I have teeny tiny child sized hands yet if I put my thumb all the way down on my phone keyboard it touches 4 letters at once. Easy af to hit the wrong letters or have autocorrect put in something funky even when youve typed a proper word. Mine keeps trying to change the word "ill" to "I'll" and "hell" to "he'll" when clearly those dont need correcting. 4 4points reply Mazer Mazer Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Good on you!! 11 11points reply Suzi Q Suzi Q Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Good point! Paying for something makes you appreciate it more. Maybe sister wasn't keen on going so they offered to pay as an incentive. First kid is probably more successful as a result. That sucks though! For them to just blow it off instead of explaining was awful. 9 9points reply Auntriarch Auntriarch Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Not at all surprised Cecily, good on you 2 2points reply Load More Comments POST lenka lenka Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago The real AH here is the American education system and the fact that you need to pay that much for an education in the first place. 189 189points reply Pernille Dyre Pernille Dyre Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Yea. Education should be free. We have No problems with it being free in Denmark... and we get paid to attend... 93 93points reply Load More Replies... Anna April-Ross Anna April-Ross Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago You are paying for it with your taxes. Nothing is free. Even in Denmark. 7 7points reply Shane Little Shane Little Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Hurdle number one Denmark population: 5.5 million US population: 330 million 6 6points reply Sarra R Sarra R Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago (edited) @Shane Little: The greater amount of people paying in to help each other, be it medical or school, the less they have to pay. Two people dividing $100 is $50 each. Five people dividing $100 is $20 each. So it's not a hurdle. It's actually much more affordable 20 20points reply Nona Wolf Nona Wolf Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago (edited) So five people have to pay for a service - but only one person gets the benefit? Would you be willing to pay for my house while you live in the street? Would you be willing to pay for my car while you have to ride the bus? 3 3points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago Wow... No wonder all your wildfires burn so long. Nobody coughing up a dime for fire department unless their OWN houses are on fire. This explains SO much about that country. 3 3points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago Everyone benefits from the fire department. Only you benefit from your education. One fire department can’t fight a wildfire. That’s a group effort, and again, everyone benefits from that. You can’t even create an apples to apples comparison, so you wouldn’t get into college anyway. -1 -1point reply Devan Delano Devan Delano Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago Society as a whole benefits when its members are educated. 1 1point reply Jodi Von Seggern Jodi Von Seggern Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago Like roads, fire departments, k-12 schools, environmental protections, ports, etc. They benefit us all! You will make use of tax supported things others don't use. What things do you use that you should give up to not be hypocrite? a 1 1point reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago No, we all use roads, the fire department, environmental protection, ports, and k-12 education. Not everyone uses college. You want to go? Fine. You pay for it. Period. 0 0points reply 33Possums 33Possums Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago A large percentage of the population in the US pays little or no taxes. 1 1point reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago Tell me you’re terrible at math without telling me you’re terrible at math. Higher population means more people going. It’s not the same amount of people going divided by more people paying. It’s not everyone else’s responsibility to “help” pay YOUR bills. I paid for my college. I pay for my healthcare. YOU pay for YOUR healthcare or don’t have it. YOU pay for YOUR college or don’t go. I didn’t sacrifice to earn a good living and pay for my education to be taxed to death to support you. 0 0points reply Greta Hoostal Greta Hoostal Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago (edited) @Sarra R: Nona Wolf has a point. We’d better divide the Ivy Leaguer’s salary 5 ways too. $80,000 to start, $16,000 each. https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-type/bachelors/ivy-league-schools 0 0points reply Joe Edwards Joe Edwards Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 6 months ago And? It's all about taxes, Americans don't care about anyone but themselves. 3 3points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago America isn’t a socialist country. Other people’s bills aren’t my problem and it’s always the people who contribute NOTHING who whine about what the rest of us allegedly owed them that!/ paid for off our backs. I didn’t sacrifice to get an education, build a career, and earn a good living, so I could pay for the poor life choices of other people. 0 0points reply P Webb P Webb Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago Not a hurdle. Fewer people means fewer taxpayers. 3 3points reply Popescu Adina Popescu Adina Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 6 months ago Fewer people means also fewer expenses that would require that tax money... it all evens out regardless of how many people there are. 3 3points reply Chris Cashman Chris Cashman Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago But @Pernille Dyre - Are private institutions in Denmark also free, or just the state ones? The Ivy League schools here are private institutions. 4 4points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago NOTHING is “free” in Denmark or anywhere else. Exorbitant taxes pays for it. 0 0points reply Brenda Jacobs Brenda Jacobs Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago Nothing is free. Someone(s) are paying for it. Your delusional if you believe its free. 3 3points reply Gabrielle B. Marcelo Gabrielle B. Marcelo Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago if nothing is free why is free even a word?-my 6yo brother. 9 9points reply Michael Harper Michael Harper Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago Misnomer, look it up 0 0points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago Socialists are delusional. Delusional disorders are a requirement to back socialist ideology. 0 0points reply Nona Wolf Nona Wolf Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago It's not free - you pay for it with taxes (which are 41% higher than taxes in America) 2 2points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago ...not to mention progressive, so people on limited income are not unnecessarily burdened while the rich swim around in their millions and light cigars with benjamins to show off on instagram. Of course to any moral being that would make murica a horrific place to actually live, which is exactly why it is. Meanwhile Denmark is one of the most idyllic places on the planet and takes amazing care of its population. Compare murican veteran life to Danish homeless life if you want. Be sure to ask the veteran and the homeless person about their lives. I promise you'll be astonished :) 0 0points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago If being rich is so easy then why don’t people like you just go become rich instead of trying to stick your hands in their pockets to pay your bills? “The rich” owe you NOTHING. It’s cute you think stealing from other people to support you is moral. People in Denmark are taxed at a RIDICULOUS rate. 0 0points reply Jodi Von Seggern Jodi Von Seggern Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago Not really Add in state taxes, sales taxes, fees and 99% of all healthcare & dental expenses including premiums & all co-pays. At that point we actually pay FAR more! Don't lie to yourself. Go compare budgets to someone with your job in nearly any other OECD country. 0 0points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago No, no we don’t. You’ll die waiting for their rationed healthcare there where the government decides whether you can live or die. 0 0points reply Jodi Von Seggern Jodi Von Seggern Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago Forgot you need to self fund insurance too--huge! 0 0points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago So? You should fund your own insurance. Why should your insurance be my responsibility? 0 0points reply Sandra Leek Sandra Leek Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 6 months ago Denmark is not America. Nothing is free. Someone is always paying. 2 2points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago Incorrect. Someone is always SHARING. 0 0points reply David Buller David Buller Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 6 months ago The real issue is who will pay for the education. In Denmark, huge taxes on the middle class enables this eucational benefit. In one Scandinavian couintry, the marginal tax rate on $35,000 income is 75%. Imagine the uproar if the U.S. tried to impose that tax system. BTW, the typical marginal tax rate in the US is effectively zero for 35K after dedcutions and credits. 2 2points reply Cathy Cathy Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 6 months ago (edited) @david buller; Maybe I'm not understanding correctly but 75% tax on a 35.000 income is a lie. I live in the Netherlands, middle income and I pay 32% 2 2points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago 32% is still OUTRAGEOUS. 0 0points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago ...which is very high for that income bracket, considering commissions tax is only 34%. Muricans need to learn the meaning of the word society and stop bitching about rights if they're not willing to pool their resources to enable a government that can actually provide those rights 0 0points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago The meaning of the word “society” isn’t stealing from people via government sanctioned theft to support people who don’t contribute. You have ZERO right to free healthcare or free college. 0 0points reply One Voice One Voice Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 6 months ago (edited) How much are your taxes? You're still paying forit, just not up front. 2 2points reply Daniel Evans Daniel Evans Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Wrong. It should be cheaper but not free. 90% of people pursue an education to get a better paying job. That should cost money unless non educated jobs payed the same and then I would agree with you. 2 2points reply Ry Guy Ry Guy Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago It does cost them money. When the person gets a higher paying job they end up paying more in taxes. 4 4points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago No, it’s not “free” in Denmark. Exorbitant tax rates pays for it. Nothing is free. People who don’t go to college shouldn’t have to fund your education. 0 0points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago No such thing as “free” education. Exorbitant taxes pays for it. I’m not paying outrageous taxes for someone else’s college. Your education=your bill. 0 0points reply Alfredo Contreras Alfredo Contreras Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago You... You get what? I need to move there no matter the cost! 0 0points reply Thechihila Wiwasteka Thechihila Wiwasteka Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Absolutely not. Anything free in North America is not appreciated. I’ve been to 3 universities at different times and you could see who was paying their own way and who had mommy and daddy paying. 0 0points reply Celsius Celsius Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. You got that right. Pay your way and quit expecting free ride! -19 -19points reply ing san ing san Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. what you call paid is barely covering the rent, if you were so lucky to score a dorm room after you passed the first semester and we have a ton of problems with budget cuts at the universities and the craziness to outsource education to the countryside and then forcing the established institutions to cut back on students that can get into the education they wish does not make Denmark look better then we are. By the way, American collages do way more to help students who struggle for various reasons -7 -7points reply Chris D Chris D Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Free just equals higher taxes for all, I don't have kids, and I am not paying for everyone else to go to college. NOPE. You want college, you pay. People need to stop expecting everyone else to pay for them. NOTHING IS FREE PEOPLE. IT COMES FROM TAXES. Get that through your thick ass skulls. NOTHING IS FREE, it's paid for through TAXES!! -10 -10points reply shane funkhouser shane funkhouser Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Yeah you get free education, I've been all over the world with the military and I've seen all these countries with free education. Know what I've noticed? All these people with degrees who can't find jobs in their field of study. As for American education. Yes it should be cheaper. The schools are as corrupt as the medical fields and government. But if so many people weren't taking useless fields of study in an already saturated field they wouldn't be having so many problems finding employment and paying for their education. The problem isn't really the cost it's that they choose to study something they have virtually no chance of finding gainful employment in because there are already to many people in that field. -14 -14points reply Craig Schulz Craig Schulz Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Its funny that people cry & whine about free education but don't realize it has to be paid by someone. Hence, thats why taxes are much higher in Europe ( has much as 60%);. The trade off is lower taxes or higher taxes. Free education or paying for education. -16 -16points reply Tiredofpayingforothers Tiredofpayingforothers Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. You won't think so after you graduate and start paying 75% of your paycheck in taxes. -16 -16points reply Celsius Celsius Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. That's why you flip burgers. Moron. -35 -35points reply Jennifer Beggs Jennifer Beggs Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is stupid. This is for Ivy League college... people from around the world come to those schools and they aren't free for anyone. UK has Oxford and that's not free either. If I could think of a school in ANY other country that were half as prestigious, that wouldn't be free either. 7 7points reply Chris Chris Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago In Germany RWTH Aachen and TU Munich are free to attend and certainly comparable to Ivy League in the US 15 15points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago (edited) Nosadseven does have a point.... Nobody gets shot on German campuses. Nobody gets forced to wade through a river because entitled children are boycotting a public bridge. Nobody assaults the staff, everyone has a living wage and a pension from professors to the gardeners and janitorial staff, nobody would DARE be so selfish as to demand "safe spaces", and even the food is regulated better than literally anywhere in murica. The educators are at the top of their field rather than the bottom of the employment pool, so no, it's certainly not comparable. Personally I wouldn't send my DOG to a murican school. I've been in the French Dutch English and murican educational systems for several years each (diplomat family) and I promise you, murica is the odd one out. -2 -2points reply [email protected] [email protected] Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Umm... No they're not. ??? -10 -10points reply CJ Taggart CJ Taggart Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Lol that's because Germany can afford the butter cause the US taxpayers pay for Germany's guns. ? -12 -12points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago You misspelled 'preposterous', but I agree that marketing budget must be VERY hard to keep up with, given it's a lie worthy of trump or mcconnell. -3 -3points reply Greta Hoostal Greta Hoostal Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago At least we can spell “America”. -2 -2points reply CanadianPanda CanadianPanda Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I agreed! OP sounds Asian, I am one and they didn't pay for my younger brother's tuition either but they did pay mine when I went 20 years ago. He didn't take any offence to it as he ended up being successful Manager himself and proudly I'd say he's much more responsible financially than I am. 6 6points reply DAVE rodriguez DAVE rodriguez Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago the education is free but not the paperwork or name of the school 1 1point reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago No, it’s not “free.” Nothing is free. 0 0points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago There’s no such thing as “free” education. Exorbitant tax rates pays for it. I’m not paying ridiculous taxes to find other people’s college. Your education=your bill. 0 0points reply [email protected] [email protected] Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. The cost is not for the education. The cost at most is for the four year pleasure cruise the schools are selling to entice students. In the Ivys, the cost is for the connections with the right people, and keeping out the rabble. Just look at who any famous Ivy Leaguer's roommate was in college. You'll know them, too. -7 -7points reply William Walton William Walton Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Who should pay for it instead? -17 -17points reply Tina B Tina B Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago The economy that benefits from it. 30 30points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago Clear, concise, to the point, and SAVAGE. Tina B, you are my kind of human. CHAPEAU! -2 -2points reply R L R L Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago There is no guarantee that a person will stay in the country they are educated in. In SA tertiary education is not free, but we also have a vast population who feel they are entitled to have everything given to them on a silver platter, even if they can afford it. -3 -3points reply Joanne Lawrence Joanne Lawrence Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago Canada charges international students about double what citizens pay to attend postsecondary here, but you're basically guaranteed Canadian permanent residency upon graduation if you want it. It's by far the easiest way to immigrate to Canada, IMO, and it means we tend to attract students who already want to stay. It's really a huge win all around. 6 6points reply Mark Mandel Mark Mandel Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago R L When you write SA are you talking about South America or South Australia? 2 2points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago (edited) Your last name and no clue there's a place called South Africa, even though Invictus, Elysium, District 9, Charlize Theron, Trevor Noah, and a bevy of other of your cultural icons are from there. WOW. This is why education is important, and the cost pays for itself in the long term. The money you waste on your military serves only to enrich your most backward and selfobsessed, and provides nothing but firepits and veteran suicide rate so high the phrase "thank you for your service" is BITINGLY ironic. -2 -2points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago It’s cute you don’t think everyone has heard of South America. Your definition of “cultural icon” is very liberal. Everyone gets a free k-12 education in America, and we don’t waste it studying your pathetic ideas of “cultural icons.” You’re awfully brave talking about anything you allege is going on in America considering what white South Africans to to black South Africans. 0 0points reply NL Lesh NL Lesh Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago Margaret Weaver: SA = South Africa? Nope. FYI ~ The country's name is actually ~ Republic of South Africa... 0 0points reply Celsius Celsius Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Punk bitches. -15 -15points reply Chris D Chris D Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. high taxes then -6 -6points reply Cassandra Wilson Cassandra Wilson Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago The amount of debt that we take on as Americas for college is not a worldwide thing. I believe it is Norway.... Google Norway's college costs 6 6points reply Erin Harrison Erin Harrison Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment has been deleted. 2 2points reply Candie Nemesys Candie Nemesys Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Well, here in Argentina everyone can go to college and the top universities from the whole country are public and free:) private universities are subpar compared to our public ones. USA is still s**t with their education 29 29points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago It’s not “free.” Exorbitant taxes pays for it. 0 0points reply Candie Nemesys Candie Nemesys Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago This comment has been deleted. 0 0points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago (edited) Psssst... look at their media. The education system -- arguably more correctly spelled 'dyseducation' given the cost-to-value ratio -- is not actually trying to produce educated voters. It is trying to produce volatile simpletons that will buy what they are told to, get angry at what they're told to, swallow whatever they're fed, and abandon any level of rational thinking when button A or B are pushed. Button A is god, button B is country. Just as destructive, simplistic and inhumane as blood & honour, god & country is really just a marketing slogan. Notice the similarities between one crowd shouting yoo-ess-say and holding up a copy of the second amendment, and another crowd shouting allahu akbar and holding up a copy of the Qur'an. Same rage, same hatred, same level of intellect. They even treat their women the same, although in some states women are still allowed to vote, I hear. ....For now, at least. Much as they try to frighten everyone about islam, the white taliban is worse. -1 -1point reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago I know! Because how DARE we demand our second amendment RIGHTS, right? Lol! If you think demanding our rights makes us uneducated then you are what you’re accusing us of being. 0 0points reply Jennifer Beggs Jennifer Beggs Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Name ONE school in Argentina that anyone has heard of.... right. Good luck with that terrifying govt of yours. -10 -10points reply Katie McCready Katie McCready Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago You should be a lot more terrified of your own government (with either party in power). America incarcerates more of its own people (by percentage of the population) than any other country in the world, and that includes North Korea, China, Saudi Arabia and Iraq. And lack of decent education is a major reason why. 13 13points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago So? What’s your point? How DARE we imprison people for being criminals, right? People who turn to crime CHOOSE not to take advantage of the educational opportunities that are afforded to everyone. Crime = lots of fast money. Doing the right thing = years and years of delayed gratification. 0 0points reply Celsius Celsius Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Which is why USA bails you idiots out of your most recent screw up. And they're stupid. Argentina...a garbage can. -16 -16points reply Michelle Mullins Michelle Mullins Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. I will take the education in the US anyday over living in a socialist s**t hole country. Why is 25% of your population below poverty level? Nobodys education is gonna be worth anything, if they are dead from chemical warfare. Who is protecting you? Your army? Covid is just the tip of the iceberg. -16 -16points reply Katie McCready Katie McCready Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I guess the American education system has stopped teaching basics like punctuation. I’d ask for my money back if I were you. 11 11points reply Jennifer Beggs Jennifer Beggs Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Google Norway's population while youre at it. 1 1point reply Candie Nemesys Candie Nemesys Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago Oh my... I guess my point still stands that USA is still s**t with education if they don't even teach you basic manners and how to engage with others in conversation. Perhaps i didn't make myself clear since obviously my first language isn't English, but i wasn't insulting your universities but pointing out how shitty the SYSTEM is since you get in huge debts to be properly educated when good education should be available for everyone. And just fyi, a lot of world top architects, doctors and engineers are argentinian and have graduated from our universities. 5 5points reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago You pay EXORBITANT taxes for your entire adult life to pay for other people’s education. Just paying for our own education is exponentially cheaper. The only people who struggle to pay student debt in America are people who CHOSE a major that has NO professional value, so they can’t earn a living. That was their CHOICE. They saddled up that horse, so they can ride it. 0 0points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago We don't need to. We went to a proper school and know the population number has nothing to do with how their people vote, which is how their government gets in empowered to build such a marvelous and idyllic nation. Oh, and by the by, that weird sky comma in don't is called an apostrophe. Google that instead. -1 -1point reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago “Marvelous idyllic nation”. That’s funny. I’d rather be dead than live in your over taxed hell hole. 0 0points reply Erin Harrison Erin Harrison Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment has been deleted. 1 1point reply Vanessa Donnelly Vanessa Donnelly Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 week ago Google Norway’s tax rate. I’m not paying for your college. 0 0points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago (edited) Norway's tertiary education is free. Even for foreigners if they agree to work there for ... three years, I believe it was? Small price to pay for that amazing an education from a country you have no allegiance or dues to. 0 0points reply Shawn Carter Shawn Carter Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. All those countries that provide free college education, Google their defense budget and Google the US defense budget. Yes, you will have a lot of money to play with when someone else is shouldering the burden of keeping you and many other nations, safe. -13 -13points reply Celsius Celsius Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Quit whining. You pay for an education to make money. Like buying a business. Don't pay 200k for a taco truck, stupid. -15 -15points reply Bret Gales Bret Gales Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Yer mom -19 -19points reply Celsius Celsius Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. You guys are weak. Pay your own way, punk bitches. -30 -30points reply Keith O Keith O Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Mom and dad weren't together, mom had to fight dad to set up an account for me due to excessive bonuses he got each year rather than take him back to court to fight for more support. Dad buys me a junky used car out of said account which neither me nor my mom had access to. Dad refuses to give me remainder of account when I turned 18 so I could pay for school, books, fraternity dues, etc. Refuses to pay for anything else unless I provide receipts, for said books, etc. even though it was supposed to be "my" money. Sister gets a car when she gets license, offered to send second younger sister to Australia for a music program, two younger adopted brothers both get stupidly jacked up and expensive trucks, etc. No I no longer speak to my father. This s**t is real when parents screw you over. Good for you. They didn't treat you fairly, they treated you as lesser than, so cut them out. 138 138points reply Mazer Mazer Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Spot on!! Sorry your peeps did not support you, good on you for cutting ties! I did the same, best decision I ever made 70 70points reply Load More Replies... Klaatu Verrata (Cough) Klaatu Verrata (Cough) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago (edited) Wow. My father refused to spend a dime on me for ANYTHING, including child support (they split when I was 2 months old--they decided I'd live with my mom, my brother with my dad). So I totally get this. I've been in therapy for years over my upbringing, including having a father who refuses to acknowledge the many ways he left me to live in squalor, with tremendous mental and physical abuse and neglect. He refuses to acknowledge ANY OF IT, although he DID say he never bonded with me so that's why he doesn't love me. (As a parent of 3, I can't imagine EVER doing these things to a child--especially a very vulnerable, abused one). So your story really resonates. Ironically, despite it all, I'm quite successful--his other spoiled kids? Meh. But I'm also still in weekly therapy for CPTSD (which includes military trauma and tons of childhood trauma). Parents who don't love and care for the children they brought into this world absolutely deserve to rot in hell. 18 18points reply Hasbullah Vida Hasbullah Vida Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Dont worry they have a special place for that kind of parents.. 8 8points reply Mahogany Eclipse Mahogany Eclipse Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I wouldn't have anything to do with him either! What a total jerk 15 15points reply KT KT Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I feel your pain, I was the black sheep of my family and treated like pond scum while my siblings were showered with gifts , trips etc. 13 13points reply Catherine VanAusdall Catherine VanAusdall Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Good for you! Stand your ground, you dont need that kind of energy in your life ? 6 6points reply Darnell Thompson Darnell Thompson Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I only have a daughter and I can tell you this your father with all due respect to you is the biggest piece of s*** in the f****** world to me bless you I hope you go through this world not letting that weigh heavy on your heart 5 5points reply William Walton William Walton Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Parents are just people too Man, i feel your pain and have much of my own, just keep telling myself that they are just people too ya know, helps?‍ 1 1point reply Kenechukwu Kenechukwu Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Hi 0 0points reply Andrew Barrett Andrew Barrett Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. It's Sad how our youth have gotten so entitled. When you get older you'll see that finances can change drastically in only a span 5 years. Please realize college is not owed to you as you go off at 18 you are legally an adult. Maybe you could have worked and bought your own car. Maybe your Dad disagreed with how your mom or you and your mom spent his portion of the money. He obviously did enough to help you get accepted to school. Realize this the money he may have to have started investing might be worth more to you than college when you don't have to spend your future money trying to raise kids and paying for parent care. Get over yourself he doesn't owe you anything. Your parents don't owe you, the world doesn't owe you anything -make the most of what you have been given, be thankful and do well with your life! -10 -10points reply P Webb P Webb Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago (edited) You can talk about entitlement all you want, but when parents pay for everything for one kid and nothing for the other, that's just wrong. 14 14points reply 33Possums 33Possums Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago Parents do owe the children they bring into the world. Parents who choose one child over another should not have had a second child. 10 10points reply Lydia Ishaya-Audu Lydia Ishaya-Audu Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Forgive your Dad for your own sake. Bitterness and unforgiveness hurt you more than the other person -11 -11points reply Angel Rose Angel Rose Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago (edited) Nah, it won't. Those things don't hurt you at all if make good choices with them. I wonder why people buy into that woowoo that having negative experiences that you chose to acknowledged and deal with is bad for you. ALL emotions are valid even bitterness. Assholes need to be cut outta your life. Parents are no exception. They are not gods - they are humans. No human who hadn't repented of their bad way deserves anything - not even forgiveness. We don't owe anyone anything. We only get one life. So it sounds like brainwashing to keep people under the thumb of an abuser when people say to do otherwise like forgive your abuser and keep the relationship. 22 22points reply Henry Williams Henry Williams Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago All emotions are valid, but your logic is very flawed. If you were crying from sadness, would you want to never get over it? Cry yourself to death? Why would you recommend someone holds onto negative feelings? It makes no sense!! 2 2points reply Janet Blasingame Janet Blasingame Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Just bcuz someone cuts someone who hurt them out of their life, doesn't mean they hold onto negative feelings. Often the opposite. I held resentments for my parents while trying to have healthy relationships w/them. Yet they made me feel inadequate & ashamed. I cut them out of my life, began to understand my worth & learned to love myself. I vowed never to subject myself to their narcissistic abuse again. After years of therapy, I don't harbor negative feelings. Instead, I foster positive feelings for myself & simply don't waste energy on them. As time goes by, I feel no real emotions when I think of them, which isn't often. If anything, I pity them. Being estranged from family members is akin to breaking up with an abuser. You do it bcuz you love yourself & realize you deserve better; you don't stay with them bcuz society might judge you. Life's too short to be miserable. We only get one, & I'm living my life the way I want- free of toxic relationships & happy with myself. 7 7points reply Logan Shinall Logan Shinall Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago My take on it (learned through therapy) is that all emotions teach us something. Pain and loss teach us that what is gone was valuable, and to value what we have in the present moment. Anger can teach us that something is wrong, and remembering that anger can teach us to make better choices (for example, not trusting someone who has screwed you over). Jealousy, fear, joy, sorrow, no emotion is good or bad, they become good or bad depending on how you handle them. It's not a matter of holding on to negative feelings, but not putting yourself in a situation where you'll have to deal with the same negative feelings as before (example: not putting yourself in a situation where someone abusive has the power to be abusive again). That's all my opinion/experience, and I'm not an expert by far. 6 6points reply Janet Blasingame Janet Blasingame Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago You have a great therapist! You're right, feelings aren't inherently good or bad. They are meant to deliver a message, sometimes of needed changes. There's nothing wrong with finding your own happiness, even if it takes distancing yourself from others. Toxic relationships should be treated as the poison they are & steered clear of. It's a sign of maturity to know when to walk away. No one asks for your permission to live their life, why should you ask for theirs? If you truly like/love yourself, you'll do your best to protect yourself from dangerous situations. Society doesn't teach us our emotions are valid simply bcuz we are human beings. We're ostracized if we choose to focus on our own well-being. Men are ridiculed for showing emotions, women are criticized. This is why mental illness is so pervasive in the U.S. You may not be an expert, but you've learned from one. Stay loyal to yourself, you're worth it. Accept you have emotions & act accordingly. You're human, after all. 4 4points reply R R Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago Mental illness is caused by the reaction to a person's emotions. You have to be kidding, right? -2 -2points reply P Webb P Webb Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago You are twisting everybody's comments around until they mean something completely different than what they actually said. You REALLY need to stop doing that. It's dishonest! The person didn't say that mental illness was caused by reaction to a person's emotions, they indicated that part of the stigma of mental illness is caused by the fact that people aren't allowed to have or show normal emotions. that's much different than what you just said. 5 5points reply R R Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago Nothing against you but all these platitudes sound great until some real s**t happens. Pain and loss teach what is valuable! Ffs, I buried my only child in August. I already knew his value. It's therapy like this that leaves people unprepared for reality. I don't have the will to go through every scenario but be assured that when sh!t happens those platitudes won't help get you through. At the same time I hope that you will never have chance to test this. -2 -2points reply P Webb P Webb Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago @R I'm so sorry for your loss. That is horrible. But I think you missed the actual point of his comment. Which is that NO emotion or feeling is good or bad. All emotions serve a purpose or teach us something valid. 4 4points reply Kenechukwu Kenechukwu Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Mmm 0 0points reply Mb Ray-k Mb Ray-k Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. What a sense of entitlement. Didn't your parents worked hard to make their money? If you feel entitled to their money, should they be equally entitled to yours? I never felt my parents should support my higher education, nor anything else I did when I became an adult. I am the oldest and my 'entitled' siblings got more because they expected it. I'm not angry about that; my parents have a right spent their money as they wish. Perhaps what you should be complaining about is your ingratitude, rather than your parents distribution choices; I'll bet you don't want people telling you how to spend your money. I'm not surprised that you've chosen not speak to your parents. I can say, you will regret that choice someday. -13 -13points reply Kandee Watson Kandee Watson Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I don't think it's that much about money as it's the fact they lied to him. 14 14points reply Klaatu Verrata (Cough) Klaatu Verrata (Cough) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Did they lie? Maybe they are just in a more financially stable position now. Maybe OP needs to consider that. -6 -6points reply 33Possums 33Possums Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago Read the post. They were not honest with him. 8 8points reply P Webb P Webb Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 7 months ago No. Or they would have said that. They just stiffened up & told him it was none of his business. So yeah, they lied. If they didn't lie they would have explained it to him because they wouldn't want him to go off believing that they lied and that they like his sister better. 3 3points reply Jodi Von Seggern Jodi Von Seggern Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago Tell us again about not reading (or understanding? the whole post...) 2 2points reply Laura Collins Laura Collins Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago That's fine you shouldn't rely on your parents money once you are a adult. However then the parents should have made it clear we are not going to pay for any of our children's educations. It's wrong! 11 11points reply Retta Bluhm Jones Retta Bluhm Jones Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I agree. I paid my way, working a variety of part time jobs. The students that didn't have to work were incredibly self centered and oblivious to the struggles of those of us that had to support ourselves. 6 6points reply Hasbullah Vida Hasbullah Vida Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment has been deleted. 0 0points reply Cecily Holland Cecily Holland Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Yep been there done that. Except I’m now doing my masters in public health and sibling flunked out of 3 degrees because entitled sibling never had to pay anything 86 86points reply Jennifer Germain Jennifer Germain Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago same thing with my husband, they even tried to kick him out while we was in school and working to pay for it. His younger brother, 3 years university fully paid by parents, never finished, kept failing. works in the trades now, my husband works at that university. 49 49points reply Load More Replies... Jilly Bean Jilly Bean Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago The trades are actually an awesome alternative to the traditional path of going to college, although I get your point that he was entitled and didn't use the education that was given to him to his advantage and took it all for granted...but I would say that anyone who doesn't want student debt hanging over their heads, and can physically do the work, to consider an apprenticeship in the trades. Depending on where you are, the wages are amazing (anywhere from $30-$50 per hour or more for the journeyman wage) My niece just started an electrical apprenticeship and her journey wages when she finishes will be $55 an hour! Again, I'm not taking away from why you wrote that comment, I'm just trying to spread awareness about an alternative route. 22 22points reply LJ Harwood LJ Harwood Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Agree 100% about considering trades. Also we need qualified trades people in our society. Thanks for bringing this idea into the discussion. 6 6points reply Marilyn Russell Marilyn Russell Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 4 months ago Good for her! I always tell young people to get into trades as I wish they encouraged women back when I was a kid. One of my nephews did listen and now does HVAC. 2 2points reply Kim Lorton Kim Lorton Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago Plus, we need more young people in the trades! The education is wonderful, you meet your fair share of butt heads, but also meet some really great people! Plus, you will likely, never be out of a job! 2 2points reply Carl Bailey Carl Bailey Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago A person shouldn't have to be a plumber when they can be a doctor or scientist just because of money. 1 1point reply Marilyn Russell Marilyn Russell Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 4 months ago Ah, we need plumbers etc. in this world just as much as professionals. 2 2points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago Psssssst... plumber IS a profession. ;) Volunteer plumbers are usually just called "son in law" 1 1point reply Kim Lorton Kim Lorton Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago I think, if you want to be a doctor, you will find a way. If that’s your passion and love, go after that dream! Many financial institutions offer grants, based on a career pathway, or a loan based on the same. You just need to go in to them, and ask. They could have criteria you meet. Like a single black female, wanting to study medicine, music etc. . You get the gist. One bank actually printed out all the grants and loans with all the criteria to get it, for me. One was strictly fora female, to study medicine, nursing or to ne a doctor, go to this institution, and they would cover your tuition for your college career. No debt. And, the woman told my mom and me, there , was money that went unused because kids just didn’t know about these grants etc. it is amazing. So, gotta ask the right questions! 2 2points reply Jodi Von Seggern Jodi Von Seggern Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 5 months ago Would have had to take on $200k-$300k in debt. You are either really, really entitled or on better drugs than we get here if you believe that in the US! 0 0points reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago Lots of good replies and comments by people schooling muricans on the lies of the murican media, but this specific one is by far the most important. THIS post, is literally something that should be taught in schools. Very, very well put, Jilly Bean. Chapeau! 0 0points reply Henry Williams Henry Williams Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago I will have to agree with the other commenters. You shouldn't use education to mock other people who didn't get it. That's incredibly arrogant and rude. 4 4points reply dew swq dew swq Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Just saying if you take trades average wages and university workers average wages the trades make more so idk the point your trying to make. 4 4points reply Rai Rai Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 months ago (edited) Doesn't it depend on what job you have at the university? And then, if you're in an administrative role, you're definitely going to make more than the average trade worker. Also, depending on which university you're working at and the coursework you're taking on, it easily gets into the hundreds of thousands. Pretty sure since that's literally their brother-in-law they know the pay difference between their husband and the brother. 2 2points reply Kellynn D Kellynn D Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 months ago There's one big difference between trades and education for white collar jobs like business degrees... to be in a trade, means you're still going to school decades after you graduate. Trades require continuous improvement in your knowledge as things change constantly. 1 1point reply Margaret Weaver Margaret Weaver Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 months ago So pilots surgeons anaesthetio-- hang on that can't be right, those are extremely white collars. Ohhhh wait, you're a murican, aren't you? Here's something to colour in, love. Let us know if you need to use the facilit-- sorry, I mean toilet. -2 -2points reply OmBoyGanesh OmBoyGanesh Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 day ago ??? You lifting him up or just here crapping on America??? I don’t think your comment represents you the way your cynical and judgemental mind thinks it does. 0 0points reply Norman Anthony Norman Anthony Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 4 months ago The younger spoiled brother is a perfect example of why the parents shouldn’t pay for the education. If you want something and are willing to work for it, you’re better for it. 0 0points reply Michael Lauinger Michael Lauinger Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. "While we was in school"? It looks like your elementary school failed to do its job... -8 -8points reply Klaatu Verrata (Cough) Klaatu Verrata (Cough) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes 9 months ago She meant to say "while HE was in school". Typo. Get off the soap box. 7 7points reply Jessica Macklemoore Jessica Macklemoore Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Its a typo. I have teeny tiny child sized hands yet if I put my thumb all the way down on my phone keyboard it touches 4 letters at once. Easy af to hit the wrong letters or have autocorrect put in something funky even when youve typed a proper word. Mine keeps trying to change the word "ill" to "I'll" and "hell" to "he'll" when clearly those dont need correcting. 4 4points reply Mazer Mazer Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Good on you!! 11 11points reply Suzi Q Suzi Q Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Good point! Paying for something makes you appreciate it more. Maybe sister wasn't keen on going so they offered to pay as an incentive. First kid is probably more successful as a result. That sucks though! For them to just blow it off instead of explaining was awful. 9 9points reply Auntriarch Auntriarch Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 9 months ago Not at all surprised Cecily, good on you 2 2points reply Load More Comments Popular on Bored Panda I Used AI To See What These 23 Popular Cartoon Characters Would Look Like In Real Life 30 Y.O. 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