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Mom Asks If She Was Wrong Not To Give Up Her Daughter s Train Seat Though Another Passenger Paid For It

Oleg Tarasenko and
Monika Pašukonytė
Since Agatha Christie's 'Murder On the Orient Express', trains have always been the scene of drama of varying degrees of complexity and intricacy. Passengers quarrel with each other, with conductors and employees of the railway, accuse each other of lacking tickets – and then just vent about it on the internet. If you have small children, you probably know what a nightmare a long train journey can be – not only for you, but for other passengers as well. If not – well, then this story may also be of interest to you. The original post, published on the AITA Reddit community, received over 7.1K upvotes and approximately 3K various comments, with almost all of the authors unanimous in their opinion. But what was this opinion – now we'll just find out. More info: Reddit

The Original Poster and her two kids went for a train journey to visit her uncle for New Year s Eve

Image credits: Pablo Nieto Abad (not the actual image) So, the OP is the mother of two, a 7 Y.O. girl and a 4 Y.O. boy. At Christmas, she was unable to visit her uncle, who was suffering from cancer, so she decided to visit him on New Year's Eve. Mom and children took COVID tests to make sure that their arrival would not be dangerous for a man with his disease, and at the last moment, it turned out that all three were healthy. Image credits: u/Trainnightmare

The OP had to buy tickets literally at the last moment so they didn t manage to reserve any particular seats

Due to the fact that they had to wait for the test results, and the OP was not sure until the last moment whether they would be able to go, they had to buy train tickets right before the journey – so it was not possible to reserve any specific seats. The mother and children got on the train – they had almost seven hours to ride, so she wanted the children to sit next to her. Image credits: u/Trainnightmare There were not many people in the car, but it was impossible to find three seats side by side, except for the seats marked as reserved. Since no one was sitting there, the woman decided to settle down in these places, and in case their owners appeared, to just try to negotiate with them somehow. Image credits: u/Trainnightmare

Finally the man showed up who appeared to be the owner of the seat occupied by the OP s daughter

Time passed, the train continued, new passengers gradually appeared, and so gradually the car was almost full. Finally, after a few hours of riding, a man appeared, apparently trying to find his seat. As the OP says, he rather rudely demanded that the passengers move back, showing him the seat numbers, but was looking for one. Image credits: Janusz Jakubowsi (not the actual image)

Mom asked the man to take another seat but he refused in rather rude words

Finally, the angry passenger reached the OP with her children, and it turned out that the OP's daughter was already sitting in his reserved seat. Just as angrily, the man demanded that the girl make room for him, but the mother, indignant at the tone of his voice, ordered her daughter to stay where she was. Image credits: u/Trainnightmare As a result of the argument, the OP tried to explain that her children were tired and suggested that the man take some other free seat. The passenger did not agree, stating that he specifically paid for this particular seat. A few minutes later he left, and the OP already decided that the conflict was over – but no such luck! Image credits: u/Trainnightmare

The angry passenger ended up being dropped off at the nearest station

The passenger returned with a member of the staff, and claimed that the OP actually stole his seat. Apparently, the railway employee was a bit shocked by such a tone of voice as well, so she also invited the man to take any empty seat. He was again outraged, arguing that children could not be above the law, and was ordered to exit the train at the next station. Image credits: u/Trainnightmare The OP continued on her way, and her children were also shocked by this conflict. In her own words, she is not sure if she did the right thing – and the opinions of her relatives about this situation were split. Image credits: Susan Jane Golding (not the actual image)

Most of the people in the comments told the OP that she was wrong and even was teaching her kids to be entitled

But the people in the comments had only one opinion – the passenger paid for his seat, so the OP was supposed to give it to him, as the rules are the same for everyone. The commenters were surprised – after all, if, according to the OP, the car was not full at the beginning of their trip, why did she and the children necessarily take the reserved seats? Some commenters have gone even further, claiming that she is harming her own children with her behavior, clearly teaching them to be entitled. In any case, even if the passenger agreed with the OP and moved to an empty seat, then an incident could occur with another person who might have also booked this other seat. We, for our part, really want to know your opinion about this story, so feel free to write about it in the comments. And if you've been a part of train drama too, we'd like to know your own tale! Anyone can write on Bored Panda. Start writing! Follow Bored Panda on Google News! Follow us on Flipboard.com/@boredpanda! Share on Facebook Oleg Tarasenko Oleg Tarasenko Writer, BoredPanda staff Oleg has master's degree in Economics he got long time ago in a city far, far away. Oleg also worked as a university teacher, sports writer and a BDSM* specialist for several IT companies.

After six years of making pub quizzez in Ukraine, Oleg joined Bored Panda team as a content creator. This panda (Pun? Duh!) is also a huge sports fan, being happy as a longtime member of WeDemBoys Community and Boston Celtics Nation as well.

During his downtime from work and parenting with three kids (twin daughters and a baby son), Oleg enjoys reading JKR, JRRT, GRRM and other respective abbreviations. Also interested in history and graphic design (and the history of graphic design too)... Read more » Monika Pašukonytė Monika Pašukonytė Author, BoredPanda staff Hey! I'm a photo editor. In my free time, I love going to art galleries, exhibitions, concerts or just hanging out in nature with my friends. My dream is to get an RV and travel around the world with my dog. Read more » Show All Contributors Get the latest inspiring stories via our awesome iOS app! Download Bored Panda app! 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POST UpupaEpops UpupaEpops Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago There is nothing more frustrating than paying extra for a reserved seat only for cheapskate, entitled assholes to take over. 133 133points reply Aria Whitaker Aria Whitaker Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) And the weirdest thing about it is the woman seriously did not see anything wrong with her behavior!! I mean how far up your a** does your head have to be in order to not see that taking something another person paid for is wrong? Her daughter is going to be on a viral video in 20 years, cussing out coffee shop employees and screaming at managers...just you wait. 61 61points reply Load More Replies... Memere Memere Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Especially since the seats were marked as reserved, and there were plenty of open seats when they boarded the train. 8 8points reply Elliot Fowler Elliot Fowler Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Worst part is the man was kicked of the train. I hope he sues the train company 106 106points reply Tam illo Tam illo Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. I don't think so. Just bc he was right about his seat, does not make it ok to be agressive towards the staff. -15 -15points reply Load More Replies... Mathias Mathias Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. He got kicked off the train for how poor he handled the situation. I traveled by train a lot and I always reserved a seat because I had quite some stuff with me for work. My seat is taken and there are other free seats? No big deal, I just grab any of the free ones. I booked the seat to ensure I have a seat, and in 90% of the cases wouldn't have to because there had been enough free ones anyway. If I was able to book and did book a specific seat for example one with a table to be able to work there I asked politely or just go straight to the conductor and have the issue sorted in a calm manner. Same if the train is full, ask politely and let the staff solve the problem by assigning you a seat. I would get it if the train was full and the staff wouldn't assign him a new seat. But starting to scream because you get assigned to a different seat? I don't get it at all. But maybe somebody can explain to me what the big deal is if you get seated to a different number? -16 -16points reply Jennifer Lee Jennifer Lee Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago THE BIG DEAL is that if the man sits in a seat that is not HIS, someone else who reserved that seat can take it from him later. If he sits in an unreserved seat, he will eventually need to give it up to another person who is disabled, pregnant, or old. He PAID for a reserved seat. Why should a thief get it? 39 39points reply Richard Alston Richard Alston Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Thank you! 0 0points reply Mathias Mathias Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. So what, it's not his seat neither, it's the transport companies. They can change the terms as they see fit as long as the service of transportation that you bought is fulfilled. And as you just said: he paid for a reserved seat, staff rerouted that reservation to another seat. Now the reservation applies to that one. Done. If the staff told you to sit somewhere else because the seat you originally reserved was broken / dirty, would you shout at the staff that they steal from you? Or thank them for solving something that was a problem for you? -17 -17points reply Ren Karlej Ren Karlej Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago SHE said he screamed. She told the staff he screamed. He was probably utterly exasperated by the time the staff were involved and so probably looked like he might scream. We don't know that he did. I would not assume for one minute that someone entitled enough to act as she did would be honest. When I have been on trains with reserved seats they usually ALL are (others may have different experiences, granted). I have sat in one temporarily until the passenger who booked it arrived and then had to stand. Most are just empty until a few further stops along (again my own experience). If he sat elsewhere he could well have ended up moved himself in the end. Her problem should not be his. 32 32points reply Cate Perez Cate Perez Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Agree to all this. 1 1point reply Mathias Mathias Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Thank you, but that are so many assumptions you are making here that it's a completely different story. Reservation systems are different in many countries so we don't know what the situation had been. And you are right, this story is just one sided either, we have no idea what exactly happened. Except for one thing: he behaved in a way that got him thrown off the train. And this decision is entirely on him. Entitlement can go both ways: an other person behaving poor/entitled doesn't entitle you to behave worse. But maybe you can explain me as well why you think him shouting was better than being polite while certain in this situation? -14 -14points reply ???????ᴛʜᴇ???? ???????ᴛʜᴇ???? Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) If I pay for something, you better believe I'm gonna behave like an a-hole when someone else takes it. And you better believe I'd absolutely flip my lid if the people I paid basically told me "yeah I know you paid and they didn't, but eff off anyway" 15 15points reply Queenie G Queenie G Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago YTA. You should have apologized and offered an explanation. It more that likely would have diffused the situation. Where were your seats and why weren't you in them? Were they not all together? 51 51points reply Bored Turtle Princess Bored Turtle Princess Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago @LuckyL She said the seats were reserved, so unless this is a country where reserved means something else, he specifically paid for that seat. If I were in his situation, I would've been irritated, too. I wouldn't have screamed at the child, but probably would've ended up yelling at the mother if my she continued like this. I don't care if there is something that's the exact same, if I paid for it, it means I paid specifically for it. You're free to call me a Karen for it, but if I got kicked out of the train for wanting to sit in the seat I PAID for, that companies head office or would have gotten a complain the next day. 50 50points reply Load More Replies... Louise Platiel Louise Platiel Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Same. 2 2points reply Mathias Mathias Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago @Bored Turtel Princess, in many countries when you reserve a seat the system applies any free seat to you. I often got an aisle seat while the window seat next to me had no reservation, so if that was free I'd just sit there. In German trains reserved seats are marked with lit sign above them. But once the trains leaves the station where the reservations starts that sign will go off, and nobody cares who sits there. It's only important when trains are overbooked. In Germany people would sit on the floor, in other countries people without reservation get kicked out of the train as security regulations demand every passenger to have a seat. So without knowing which country that was in it is really hard to tell. -3 -3points reply LuckyL LuckyL Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. I don't think it's that easy - but with the train staff telling him, that sitting in another seat would be fine, and him not accepting and screaming at others, let alone kids. I think it's fair to tell him, that he has to leave. He bookes a place to sit, and not THIS place to sit. With everyone being a little bit more tolerant, there wouldn't have been a problem. And of course, if there hadn't been any more seats - I also say, that she would have had to leave and stand. (Was far as I understood, there were no other seats for her and her kids to sit together.) -44 -44points reply Load More Comments POST UpupaEpops UpupaEpops Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago There is nothing more frustrating than paying extra for a reserved seat only for cheapskate, entitled assholes to take over. 133 133points reply Aria Whitaker Aria Whitaker Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) And the weirdest thing about it is the woman seriously did not see anything wrong with her behavior!! I mean how far up your a** does your head have to be in order to not see that taking something another person paid for is wrong? Her daughter is going to be on a viral video in 20 years, cussing out coffee shop employees and screaming at managers...just you wait. 61 61points reply Load More Replies... Memere Memere Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Especially since the seats were marked as reserved, and there were plenty of open seats when they boarded the train. 8 8points reply Elliot Fowler Elliot Fowler Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Worst part is the man was kicked of the train. I hope he sues the train company 106 106points reply Tam illo Tam illo Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. I don't think so. Just bc he was right about his seat, does not make it ok to be agressive towards the staff. -15 -15points reply Load More Replies... Mathias Mathias Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. He got kicked off the train for how poor he handled the situation. I traveled by train a lot and I always reserved a seat because I had quite some stuff with me for work. My seat is taken and there are other free seats? No big deal, I just grab any of the free ones. I booked the seat to ensure I have a seat, and in 90% of the cases wouldn't have to because there had been enough free ones anyway. If I was able to book and did book a specific seat for example one with a table to be able to work there I asked politely or just go straight to the conductor and have the issue sorted in a calm manner. Same if the train is full, ask politely and let the staff solve the problem by assigning you a seat. I would get it if the train was full and the staff wouldn't assign him a new seat. But starting to scream because you get assigned to a different seat? I don't get it at all. But maybe somebody can explain to me what the big deal is if you get seated to a different number? -16 -16points reply Jennifer Lee Jennifer Lee Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago THE BIG DEAL is that if the man sits in a seat that is not HIS, someone else who reserved that seat can take it from him later. If he sits in an unreserved seat, he will eventually need to give it up to another person who is disabled, pregnant, or old. He PAID for a reserved seat. Why should a thief get it? 39 39points reply Richard Alston Richard Alston Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Thank you! 0 0points reply Mathias Mathias Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. So what, it's not his seat neither, it's the transport companies. They can change the terms as they see fit as long as the service of transportation that you bought is fulfilled. And as you just said: he paid for a reserved seat, staff rerouted that reservation to another seat. Now the reservation applies to that one. Done. If the staff told you to sit somewhere else because the seat you originally reserved was broken / dirty, would you shout at the staff that they steal from you? Or thank them for solving something that was a problem for you? -17 -17points reply Ren Karlej Ren Karlej Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago SHE said he screamed. She told the staff he screamed. He was probably utterly exasperated by the time the staff were involved and so probably looked like he might scream. We don't know that he did. I would not assume for one minute that someone entitled enough to act as she did would be honest. When I have been on trains with reserved seats they usually ALL are (others may have different experiences, granted). I have sat in one temporarily until the passenger who booked it arrived and then had to stand. Most are just empty until a few further stops along (again my own experience). If he sat elsewhere he could well have ended up moved himself in the end. Her problem should not be his. 32 32points reply Cate Perez Cate Perez Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Agree to all this. 1 1point reply Mathias Mathias Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. Thank you, but that are so many assumptions you are making here that it's a completely different story. Reservation systems are different in many countries so we don't know what the situation had been. And you are right, this story is just one sided either, we have no idea what exactly happened. Except for one thing: he behaved in a way that got him thrown off the train. And this decision is entirely on him. Entitlement can go both ways: an other person behaving poor/entitled doesn't entitle you to behave worse. But maybe you can explain me as well why you think him shouting was better than being polite while certain in this situation? -14 -14points reply ???????ᴛʜᴇ???? ???????ᴛʜᴇ???? Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) If I pay for something, you better believe I'm gonna behave like an a-hole when someone else takes it. And you better believe I'd absolutely flip my lid if the people I paid basically told me "yeah I know you paid and they didn't, but eff off anyway" 15 15points reply Queenie G Queenie G Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago YTA. You should have apologized and offered an explanation. It more that likely would have diffused the situation. Where were your seats and why weren't you in them? Were they not all together? 51 51points reply Bored Turtle Princess Bored Turtle Princess Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago @LuckyL She said the seats were reserved, so unless this is a country where reserved means something else, he specifically paid for that seat. If I were in his situation, I would've been irritated, too. I wouldn't have screamed at the child, but probably would've ended up yelling at the mother if my she continued like this. I don't care if there is something that's the exact same, if I paid for it, it means I paid specifically for it. You're free to call me a Karen for it, but if I got kicked out of the train for wanting to sit in the seat I PAID for, that companies head office or would have gotten a complain the next day. 50 50points reply Load More Replies... Louise Platiel Louise Platiel Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Same. 2 2points reply Mathias Mathias Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago @Bored Turtel Princess, in many countries when you reserve a seat the system applies any free seat to you. I often got an aisle seat while the window seat next to me had no reservation, so if that was free I'd just sit there. In German trains reserved seats are marked with lit sign above them. But once the trains leaves the station where the reservations starts that sign will go off, and nobody cares who sits there. It's only important when trains are overbooked. In Germany people would sit on the floor, in other countries people without reservation get kicked out of the train as security regulations demand every passenger to have a seat. So without knowing which country that was in it is really hard to tell. -3 -3points reply LuckyL LuckyL Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago This comment is hidden. Click here to view. I don't think it's that easy - but with the train staff telling him, that sitting in another seat would be fine, and him not accepting and screaming at others, let alone kids. I think it's fair to tell him, that he has to leave. He bookes a place to sit, and not THIS place to sit. With everyone being a little bit more tolerant, there wouldn't have been a problem. And of course, if there hadn't been any more seats - I also say, that she would have had to leave and stand. (Was far as I understood, there were no other seats for her and her kids to sit together.) -44 -44points reply Load More Comments Popular on Bored Panda I Used AI To See What These 23 Popular Cartoon Characters Would Look Like In Real Life 30 Y.O. 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