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Pro member You might be aware of the fact that characters in movie adaptations do not always look like those described in a book. Sometimes the cast is chosen merely because of their popularity, acting skills or general vibe, leaving aside their looks. Fortunately, there are people who can help those dying to see a precise visual representation of their favorite book personas by illustrating them according to their original descriptions. An artist named Ivan Rebikow decided to use artificial intelligence to recreate characters from The Lord of the Rings. He chose an independent research lab called Midjourney to produce images from textual descriptions. Scroll down to see what Gandalf, Balrog, Sauron, Nazgul, Gimli, Frodo and Aragorn would look like according to J. R. R. Tolkien! More info: Instagram Facebook Gandalf
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Gandalf, later known as Gandalf the White, and originally named Olórin, is a protagonist in J. R. R. Tolkien's novels The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. He is an Istar (Wizard) and the leader of the Fellowship of the Ring. Balrog
Image credits: ivanrebikovnow Balrog in the movie
A Balrog is a powerful demonic monster in J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle-earth. Sauron
Image credits: ivanrebikovnow Sauron in the movie
Sauron is the primary antagonist of J. R. R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, where he rules the land of Mordor and has the ambition of ruling the whole of Middle-earth. Nazgul
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The Nazgûl, also known as the Black Riders or simply The Nine are fictional characters in J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle-earth. They are the dreaded ring-servants of the Dark Lord Sauron in Middle-earth. Gimli
Image credits: ivanrebikovnow Gimli in the movie
Gimli is a Dwarf of the House of Durin and a member of the Fellowship of the Ring. He is a dwarf warrior, the son of Glóin, who fought alongside Elves in the War of the Ring against Sauron at the end of the Third Age. Frodo
Image credits: ivanrebikovnow Frodo in the movie
Frodo Baggins is one of the protagonists in The Lord of the Rings. He is a hobbit of the Shire who inherits the One Ring from his cousin and undertakes the quest to destroy it in the fires of Mount Doom in Mordor. Aragorn
Image credits: ivanrebikovnow Aragorn in the movie
Aragorn is a protagonist in J. R. R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings. He was a Ranger of the North, first introduced with the name Strider and later revealed to be the heir of Isildur, an ancient King of Arnor and Gondor. Ivan told Bored Panda that he was impressed by Midjourney's response to the text descriptions. "I noticed that it produces the most interesting work on the extended description of the object. The longer the description, the more unpredictable the result was. I chose the characters from The Lord of the Rings because each of them had an entire description of their appearance. So I wondered how Midjourney would draw them." Anyone can write on Bored Panda. Start writing! Follow Bored Panda on Google News! 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At first they were cool but now everyone just seems to have downloaded the same app and started calling themselves artists. And why do these AI pics always have one wonky eye, what’s up with that?? 93 93points reply Load More Replies... Tilfeldig Forbipasserende Tilfeldig Forbipasserende Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) And most of them are rather crappy, or is that just me? 11 11points reply Moosy Girl Moosy Girl Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Not just you, I agree most of them miss the mark. 5 5points reply Virgil Blue Virgil Blue Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago AI's don't know how eyes are supposed to look at things and treat them as different objects giving that uncanny vibe. 4 4points reply Jounes Erojo Jounes Erojo Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago The AI Sauron doesn't even have an Eye and you're r8. After the filter-mannequin generation we got the AI-Artists. Curious what will be next . Maybe the AI sing stars or composers 0 0points reply Amelia Bee Amelia Bee Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago I'm very sick of it. This isn't what the characters were meant to look like, it's just some crappy rendition by a lifeless computer program who can't even get basic human anatomy correct. 13 13points reply Anyone-for-tea? Anyone-for-tea? Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago I agree with you all, I tried it to see how it works. All it means is you’ve put in a bunch of keywords in, now I don’t want to “gatekeep” art but that’s not really art!! 5 5points reply Virgil Blue Virgil Blue Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Plus the AI probably just drag nets the Internet for actual real original art, samples it without permission and filter pistes it all together to match keywords. To me it's an automated art forge system. 5 5points reply Tahar Taggle Tahar Taggle Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Yep. Opened this thread just for that. 4 4points reply 333 333 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago The artificial intelligence refers to the "artists" thinking they're clever, not computer AI 2 2points reply Time to learn Hindian Time to learn Hindian Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 weeks ago Definitely 0 0points reply Charlie Birkner Charlie Birkner Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago *yawns*… what? 0 0points reply The Kassanchuks The Kassanchuks Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Never, once the genie has been let out of the bottle it can never go back in.....never! 0 0points reply T5n T5n Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Yes. I just clicked on this one since I’m a LOTR fan. 0 0points reply RafCo (he/him) RafCo (he/him) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago I have some issues with these. First, Gandalf is described as having a long grey beard and particularly long bushy eyebrows. Frodo is 50 years old when he leaves the shire, not 13, and taking into account that hobbits age a bit slower than humans a 50 year old hobbit would be like a 30-35 year old human. And finally, the Nazgul are walking shadows. They cannot be seen unless you yourself are also a wraith, or wearing the one ring. All you see are their black cloaks. But I suppose this is what you might see if you were a wraith. As to Sauron, in the books of LOTR Sauron has no physical form, but is described always as a "mind" and sometimes an "ever searching eye". The orcs of Mordor have the Red Eye of Sauron painted on their shields. Okay, I'm done being a nerd now. Still, these are cool 99 99points reply Trond Øien Trond Øien Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) I agree. The Peter Jackson trilogy pretty much nailed it imo. 62 62points reply Load More Replies... RafCo (he/him) RafCo (he/him) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Yeah. Certainly some changes were made to the books for the movies, but he pretty much had it. I like that he made Arwen an actual character. 16 16points reply Colin Timp Colin Timp Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago But at the expense of totally ignoring Glorfindel; who is a very important figure. Many were upset that Bombadil was left out; but honestly that whole story line (while interesting) was nothing but filler. Leaving it out of the book would've changed nothing. 15 15points reply Casey Atkins Casey Atkins Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago But if the hobbits didn't get the Barrow-blades after being rescued by Tom Bombadil then the Witch King wouldn't have been killed. Merry's Barrow-blade played a major role in the Battle of the Pelennor Fields, having been enchanted with the power to harm the Witch-king of Angmar himself by a weaponsmith of Arthedain long before. 5 5points reply 54 s 54 s Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago But didn't he save the hobbits from the barrow wights? That was at least worth a cameo, yeah? 5 5points reply Tim Tim Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Glorfindel is not important at all within the confines of the Lord of the Rings novels. Literally, all he does is carry Frodo to Rivendell. I think it's totally acceptable to swap in Arwen for that task. Leave Glorfindel in the movie and you have to give him context, only to have him just be the courier of the hobbit. And the only reason he is the same Glorfindel from Gondolin is because Christopher Tolkien was a pedantic little nerd who constantly pointed out his father's errors while he would tell the stories verbally.... and Tolkien didn't want to have two elves with the same name. 3 3points reply WatermelonTheDutchie WatermelonTheDutchie Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago every time i see peter jackson i get confused and think of percy jackson XD 4 4points reply Colin Timp Colin Timp Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago The Balrog scene in FOTR made the entire movie. 4 4points reply Amelia Bee Amelia Bee Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago I disagree on Sauron, Peter Jackson made him a literal giant eye, which I found a bit silly. In the books, he was this tremendous, ever watching presence, unseen but very much felt, like no matter where you are, you can feel as if his eyes are boring into you. A dark presence, not a giant friggin eyeball. 2 2points reply Trond Øien Trond Øien Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) Well, it's a movie so how do you visualize that? My guess is that Jackson built his decision on passages like this: "But suddenly the mirror went altogether dark, as dark as if a hole had opened in the world of sight, and Frodo looked into emptiness. In the black abyss there appeared a single eye that slowly grew, until it filled nearly the whole mirror. So terrible was it that Frodo stood rooted, unable to cry out or to withdraw his gaze. The eye was rimmed with fire, but itself glazed, yellow as a cat's, watchful and intent, and the black slit of its pupil opened on a pit, a window into nothing". Personally I think it works quite well in the movies. It's not quite an eyeball either is it. More like fire that is reminiscent of an eye of sorts. it's just a movie too :) 8 8points reply Colin Timp Colin Timp Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago One thing I found interesting though in reading was that Gollum says that Sauron has "only 4 fingers on the Black Hand." So he must have some kind of physical form at that time. 11 11points reply RafCo (he/him) RafCo (he/him) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago That is a good point. 1 1point reply Jonathan Nichols Jonathan Nichols Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago And I'm quite certain Aragorn was meant to be beardless because of his lineage. I wonder what this AI based some of it's decisions on if it became "more unpredictable" the longer the description was 6 6points reply RafCo (he/him) RafCo (he/him) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Aragorn had a beard at the prancing pony. 2 2points reply Jonathan Nichols Jonathan Nichols Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) I'm not sure why you say he does. I don't mean to argue, but his description at the Prancing Pony is: "As Frodo drew near he threw back his hood, showing a shaggy head of dark hair flecked with grey, and in a pale stern face a pair of keen grey eyes." Maybe I'm missing something? 9 9points reply Evelyn Ziegler Evelyn Ziegler Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Sauron did have a body. Gollum told Frodo and Sam that Sauron had FOUR fingers on one hand. Then, he continued one saying that the FOUR fingers were enough and he shuddered. Gollum had been taken to Barad-dûr to be tortured for information by Sauron, so clearly he had met the Dark Lord in the flesh. How is that possible if Sauron did not have a body? “‘ ???, ?? ??? ???? ???? ?? ??? ????? ????, ??? ???? ??? ??????,’ said Gollum shuddering. ‘And He hated Isildur’s city.’” - The Two Towers. Book 4. Chapter 3: The Black Gate is Closed - 3 3points reply Łukasz Markuszewski Łukasz Markuszewski Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) I remember from Silmarillion that Sauron lost his power of shapeshifting (one of Majars power) during The War of Wrath and became a shadow in flesh, but with losing The Ring he lost his body and became just a shadow. What Smeagol said might be symbolic for Sauron loosing The Ring. 1 1point reply Evelyn Ziegler Evelyn Ziegler Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago In the Silmarillion, Tolkien wrote that Sauron lost his ability to assume fair form again after the destruction of Númenor. Sauron could only assume a terrible form from then onwards. Also, in his letters, Tolkien wrote that Sauron had a physical body in the Third Age though we don’t know exactly how that body looked like beyond the height and 4 fingers on one hand as described by Gollum in LOTR. “...the year 1000 of the Third Age, when the shadow of Sauron began first to grow again to new shape. (The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, No. 144, dated 1954). “Sauron should be thought of as very terrible. The form that he took was that of a man of more than human stature, but not gigantic.” (The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, No. 246, dated 1963) 0 0points reply Death Glare Champion Death Glare Champion Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago But such a cool and knowledgeable nerd. Nerds rule! 3 3points reply Lytse Draak Lytse Draak Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Frodo is 50, agreed, but the book also explained he didn't look like that due to the ring. 3 3points reply Anna Repp Anna Repp Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago This! Thank you! Came here to write exactly the same thoughts. Frodo has always bugged me from the fist day I saw him in the trilogy. I got used to him, but if the artist wanted to show how Frodo really looked like, he's make him older, not a pre-teen! I mean - has he even read the books? 1 1point reply Evelyn Ziegler Evelyn Ziegler Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Frodo was *supposed* to look young instead of his real age. The Ring preserved his youthfulness. Aragorn was supposed to be beardless. There was a passage in LOTR where Aragorn visited Lothlorien, Galadriel gave him elvish garments to wear, and he looked like an elf-lord from the West. Not possible to look like an elf if you are bearded. Moreover, Tolkien specifically wrote that men of Númenórean royalty ancestry are not capable of growing beards in the Nature of Middle-earth due to the elvish strain in their blood which was dominant and enduring. “As time went on, people began to notice that ????? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ???? ‘????????????’: ????????? ?? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?? ? ?????? ??? ????????? ?????? ???? ??? ?? ??? ??????. ‘Some folk have all the luck,’ they said; but it was not until Frodo approached the usually more sober age of fifty that they began to think it queer.” - The Fellowship of the Ring. Book 1. Chapter 2: The Shadow of the Past - 1 1point reply Tim Tim Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago The Nazgul are described (rather vaguely as I recall) when Frodo puts on the ring and sees their faces on Weathertop. 0 0points reply Aaron Savage Aaron Savage Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Sauron did have a physical form according to letters Tolkien wrote to friends, but he deliberately didn't describe Sauron's body because it makes the idea of his menacing presence across Middle-Earth more powerful storywise. Whatever shape he had would, IMO, probably be pretty fragile given how much of his power he'd already burned up over the centuries. Duder's spirit barely escaped the destruction of Numenor, and Tolkien wrote in correspondence that it took Sauron longer to achieve a physical form after the Ring was cut from his finger and he was killed than it did after the sinking of Numenor. 0 0points reply Colin Timp Colin Timp Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) I don't know where they got some of these. First off, Gandalf's is supposed to have massive bushy eyebrows. The Balrog doesn't really have a defined shape. It's shadow and flame. The Nazgul aren't visible to those not wearing the ring. Frodo is between 33 and 52 during the events; not 10. 44 44points reply Josh Fisher Josh Fisher Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago See, that's the thing. The characters looks were only described in words. I don't believe Tolkien ever did any graphic art to show the characters, only words, which makes the reader have to visualize it in their head so one persons interpretation of a characters description is not exactly going to match what someone else pictures in their head. Similar, yes, 100 percent the same for ever reader? Absolutely impossible as everyone. Is going to picture some attributes differently then others which is why the books are almost always better than any movies/tv shows based on those books. It's up to your imagination to fill in some of character's looks instead of someone else's interpretation. That is unless the writer is also a graphic novelists which really does give more insite into the creators true vision like comic book movies for example. The characters looks have already been established by decades of comics in multiple ways. The same is not true for the LOTR. 1 1point reply Load More Replies... Noltha Noltha Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Tolkien created some landscape drawings for Hobbit, but he saw many illustrations to his works, and, afair, he appreciated in particular Alan Lee. 1 1point reply Steve McCrea Steve McCrea Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Still, how can an AI program based on Tolkien's description miss that Frodo is 50 or that Gandalf has bushy eyebrows? 0 0points reply Loki’s Lil Butter Knife Loki’s Lil Butter Knife Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago I agree. Hobbits age differently than their human counterparts in Tolkien’s mythology. A major fan on the OneRing.com I calculated hobbit aging against human and Frodo would have been the equivalent of around 30-35 I’m human years. 0 0points reply Load More Comments POST Tilfeldig Forbipasserende Tilfeldig Forbipasserende Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Are anyone else getting tired of these "used artificial intelligence to show" posts? 135 135points reply Moosy Girl Moosy Girl Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago YEEEEESSSSS! At first they were cool but now everyone just seems to have downloaded the same app and started calling themselves artists. And why do these AI pics always have one wonky eye, what’s up with that?? 93 93points reply Load More Replies... Tilfeldig Forbipasserende Tilfeldig Forbipasserende Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) And most of them are rather crappy, or is that just me? 11 11points reply Moosy Girl Moosy Girl Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Not just you, I agree most of them miss the mark. 5 5points reply Virgil Blue Virgil Blue Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago AI's don't know how eyes are supposed to look at things and treat them as different objects giving that uncanny vibe. 4 4points reply Jounes Erojo Jounes Erojo Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago The AI Sauron doesn't even have an Eye and you're r8. After the filter-mannequin generation we got the AI-Artists. Curious what will be next . Maybe the AI sing stars or composers 0 0points reply Amelia Bee Amelia Bee Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago I'm very sick of it. This isn't what the characters were meant to look like, it's just some crappy rendition by a lifeless computer program who can't even get basic human anatomy correct. 13 13points reply Anyone-for-tea? Anyone-for-tea? Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago I agree with you all, I tried it to see how it works. All it means is you’ve put in a bunch of keywords in, now I don’t want to “gatekeep” art but that’s not really art!! 5 5points reply Virgil Blue Virgil Blue Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Plus the AI probably just drag nets the Internet for actual real original art, samples it without permission and filter pistes it all together to match keywords. To me it's an automated art forge system. 5 5points reply Tahar Taggle Tahar Taggle Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Yep. Opened this thread just for that. 4 4points reply 333 333 Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago The artificial intelligence refers to the "artists" thinking they're clever, not computer AI 2 2points reply Time to learn Hindian Time to learn Hindian Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 weeks ago Definitely 0 0points reply Charlie Birkner Charlie Birkner Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago *yawns*… what? 0 0points reply The Kassanchuks The Kassanchuks Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Never, once the genie has been let out of the bottle it can never go back in.....never! 0 0points reply T5n T5n Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Yes. I just clicked on this one since I’m a LOTR fan. 0 0points reply RafCo (he/him) RafCo (he/him) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago I have some issues with these. First, Gandalf is described as having a long grey beard and particularly long bushy eyebrows. Frodo is 50 years old when he leaves the shire, not 13, and taking into account that hobbits age a bit slower than humans a 50 year old hobbit would be like a 30-35 year old human. And finally, the Nazgul are walking shadows. They cannot be seen unless you yourself are also a wraith, or wearing the one ring. All you see are their black cloaks. But I suppose this is what you might see if you were a wraith. As to Sauron, in the books of LOTR Sauron has no physical form, but is described always as a "mind" and sometimes an "ever searching eye". The orcs of Mordor have the Red Eye of Sauron painted on their shields. Okay, I'm done being a nerd now. Still, these are cool 99 99points reply Trond Øien Trond Øien Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) I agree. The Peter Jackson trilogy pretty much nailed it imo. 62 62points reply Load More Replies... RafCo (he/him) RafCo (he/him) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Yeah. Certainly some changes were made to the books for the movies, but he pretty much had it. I like that he made Arwen an actual character. 16 16points reply Colin Timp Colin Timp Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago But at the expense of totally ignoring Glorfindel; who is a very important figure. Many were upset that Bombadil was left out; but honestly that whole story line (while interesting) was nothing but filler. Leaving it out of the book would've changed nothing. 15 15points reply Casey Atkins Casey Atkins Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago But if the hobbits didn't get the Barrow-blades after being rescued by Tom Bombadil then the Witch King wouldn't have been killed. Merry's Barrow-blade played a major role in the Battle of the Pelennor Fields, having been enchanted with the power to harm the Witch-king of Angmar himself by a weaponsmith of Arthedain long before. 5 5points reply 54 s 54 s Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago But didn't he save the hobbits from the barrow wights? That was at least worth a cameo, yeah? 5 5points reply Tim Tim Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Glorfindel is not important at all within the confines of the Lord of the Rings novels. Literally, all he does is carry Frodo to Rivendell. I think it's totally acceptable to swap in Arwen for that task. Leave Glorfindel in the movie and you have to give him context, only to have him just be the courier of the hobbit. And the only reason he is the same Glorfindel from Gondolin is because Christopher Tolkien was a pedantic little nerd who constantly pointed out his father's errors while he would tell the stories verbally.... and Tolkien didn't want to have two elves with the same name. 3 3points reply WatermelonTheDutchie WatermelonTheDutchie Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago every time i see peter jackson i get confused and think of percy jackson XD 4 4points reply Colin Timp Colin Timp Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago The Balrog scene in FOTR made the entire movie. 4 4points reply Amelia Bee Amelia Bee Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago I disagree on Sauron, Peter Jackson made him a literal giant eye, which I found a bit silly. In the books, he was this tremendous, ever watching presence, unseen but very much felt, like no matter where you are, you can feel as if his eyes are boring into you. A dark presence, not a giant friggin eyeball. 2 2points reply Trond Øien Trond Øien Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) Well, it's a movie so how do you visualize that? My guess is that Jackson built his decision on passages like this: "But suddenly the mirror went altogether dark, as dark as if a hole had opened in the world of sight, and Frodo looked into emptiness. In the black abyss there appeared a single eye that slowly grew, until it filled nearly the whole mirror. So terrible was it that Frodo stood rooted, unable to cry out or to withdraw his gaze. The eye was rimmed with fire, but itself glazed, yellow as a cat's, watchful and intent, and the black slit of its pupil opened on a pit, a window into nothing". Personally I think it works quite well in the movies. It's not quite an eyeball either is it. More like fire that is reminiscent of an eye of sorts. it's just a movie too :) 8 8points reply Colin Timp Colin Timp Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago One thing I found interesting though in reading was that Gollum says that Sauron has "only 4 fingers on the Black Hand." So he must have some kind of physical form at that time. 11 11points reply RafCo (he/him) RafCo (he/him) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago That is a good point. 1 1point reply Jonathan Nichols Jonathan Nichols Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago And I'm quite certain Aragorn was meant to be beardless because of his lineage. I wonder what this AI based some of it's decisions on if it became "more unpredictable" the longer the description was 6 6points reply RafCo (he/him) RafCo (he/him) Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Aragorn had a beard at the prancing pony. 2 2points reply Jonathan Nichols Jonathan Nichols Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) I'm not sure why you say he does. I don't mean to argue, but his description at the Prancing Pony is: "As Frodo drew near he threw back his hood, showing a shaggy head of dark hair flecked with grey, and in a pale stern face a pair of keen grey eyes." Maybe I'm missing something? 9 9points reply Evelyn Ziegler Evelyn Ziegler Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Sauron did have a body. Gollum told Frodo and Sam that Sauron had FOUR fingers on one hand. Then, he continued one saying that the FOUR fingers were enough and he shuddered. Gollum had been taken to Barad-dûr to be tortured for information by Sauron, so clearly he had met the Dark Lord in the flesh. How is that possible if Sauron did not have a body? “‘ ???, ?? ??? ???? ???? ?? ??? ????? ????, ??? ???? ??? ??????,’ said Gollum shuddering. ‘And He hated Isildur’s city.’” - The Two Towers. Book 4. Chapter 3: The Black Gate is Closed - 3 3points reply Łukasz Markuszewski Łukasz Markuszewski Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) I remember from Silmarillion that Sauron lost his power of shapeshifting (one of Majars power) during The War of Wrath and became a shadow in flesh, but with losing The Ring he lost his body and became just a shadow. What Smeagol said might be symbolic for Sauron loosing The Ring. 1 1point reply Evelyn Ziegler Evelyn Ziegler Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago In the Silmarillion, Tolkien wrote that Sauron lost his ability to assume fair form again after the destruction of Númenor. Sauron could only assume a terrible form from then onwards. Also, in his letters, Tolkien wrote that Sauron had a physical body in the Third Age though we don’t know exactly how that body looked like beyond the height and 4 fingers on one hand as described by Gollum in LOTR. “...the year 1000 of the Third Age, when the shadow of Sauron began first to grow again to new shape. (The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, No. 144, dated 1954). “Sauron should be thought of as very terrible. The form that he took was that of a man of more than human stature, but not gigantic.” (The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, No. 246, dated 1963) 0 0points reply Death Glare Champion Death Glare Champion Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago But such a cool and knowledgeable nerd. Nerds rule! 3 3points reply Lytse Draak Lytse Draak Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Frodo is 50, agreed, but the book also explained he didn't look like that due to the ring. 3 3points reply Anna Repp Anna Repp Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago This! Thank you! Came here to write exactly the same thoughts. Frodo has always bugged me from the fist day I saw him in the trilogy. I got used to him, but if the artist wanted to show how Frodo really looked like, he's make him older, not a pre-teen! I mean - has he even read the books? 1 1point reply Evelyn Ziegler Evelyn Ziegler Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Frodo was *supposed* to look young instead of his real age. The Ring preserved his youthfulness. Aragorn was supposed to be beardless. There was a passage in LOTR where Aragorn visited Lothlorien, Galadriel gave him elvish garments to wear, and he looked like an elf-lord from the West. Not possible to look like an elf if you are bearded. Moreover, Tolkien specifically wrote that men of Númenórean royalty ancestry are not capable of growing beards in the Nature of Middle-earth due to the elvish strain in their blood which was dominant and enduring. “As time went on, people began to notice that ????? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ???? ‘????????????’: ????????? ?? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?? ? ?????? ??? ????????? ?????? ???? ??? ?? ??? ??????. ‘Some folk have all the luck,’ they said; but it was not until Frodo approached the usually more sober age of fifty that they began to think it queer.” - The Fellowship of the Ring. Book 1. Chapter 2: The Shadow of the Past - 1 1point reply Tim Tim Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago The Nazgul are described (rather vaguely as I recall) when Frodo puts on the ring and sees their faces on Weathertop. 0 0points reply Aaron Savage Aaron Savage Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Sauron did have a physical form according to letters Tolkien wrote to friends, but he deliberately didn't describe Sauron's body because it makes the idea of his menacing presence across Middle-Earth more powerful storywise. Whatever shape he had would, IMO, probably be pretty fragile given how much of his power he'd already burned up over the centuries. Duder's spirit barely escaped the destruction of Numenor, and Tolkien wrote in correspondence that it took Sauron longer to achieve a physical form after the Ring was cut from his finger and he was killed than it did after the sinking of Numenor. 0 0points reply Colin Timp Colin Timp Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago (edited) I don't know where they got some of these. First off, Gandalf's is supposed to have massive bushy eyebrows. The Balrog doesn't really have a defined shape. It's shadow and flame. The Nazgul aren't visible to those not wearing the ring. Frodo is between 33 and 52 during the events; not 10. 44 44points reply Josh Fisher Josh Fisher Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago See, that's the thing. The characters looks were only described in words. I don't believe Tolkien ever did any graphic art to show the characters, only words, which makes the reader have to visualize it in their head so one persons interpretation of a characters description is not exactly going to match what someone else pictures in their head. Similar, yes, 100 percent the same for ever reader? Absolutely impossible as everyone. Is going to picture some attributes differently then others which is why the books are almost always better than any movies/tv shows based on those books. It's up to your imagination to fill in some of character's looks instead of someone else's interpretation. That is unless the writer is also a graphic novelists which really does give more insite into the creators true vision like comic book movies for example. The characters looks have already been established by decades of comics in multiple ways. The same is not true for the LOTR. 1 1point reply Load More Replies... Noltha Noltha Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Tolkien created some landscape drawings for Hobbit, but he saw many illustrations to his works, and, afair, he appreciated in particular Alan Lee. 1 1point reply Steve McCrea Steve McCrea Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago Still, how can an AI program based on Tolkien's description miss that Frodo is 50 or that Gandalf has bushy eyebrows? 0 0points reply Loki’s Lil Butter Knife Loki’s Lil Butter Knife Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 month ago I agree. Hobbits age differently than their human counterparts in Tolkien’s mythology. A major fan on the OneRing.com I calculated hobbit aging against human and Frodo would have been the equivalent of around 30-35 I’m human years. 0 0points reply Load More Comments Popular on Bored Panda I Used AI To See What These 23 Popular Cartoon Characters Would Look Like In Real Life 30 Y.O. 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