Company Loses A Client After Manager Takes Vacation And Doesn t Check Her Work Email

Company Loses A Client After Manager Takes Vacation And Doesn t Check Her Work Email

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Company Loses A Client After Manager Takes Vacation And Doesn’ t Check Her Work Email

Oleg Tarasenko and
Monika Pašukonytė
What is the best way to avoid responsibility for your own fault – whether it be work, school or relationships? That's right, put all the blame on the other person, and it doesn't matter that this other one is completely not to blame for your own incompetence. The more furiously you insist and the more offended you look, the more effective this strategy will be in the eyes of other people. Unfortunately, although we were completely joking, of course, many people use this particular tactic, thereby masking their mistakes or elementary laziness. Most often this happens in the workplace, and then there is what we used to call "office drama". One such office drama is featured in a post by user u/hollandaisecrabcake on the AITA Reddit community, which racked up over 29.7K upvotes and nearly 3.1K various comments. And, most interestingly, the tactics of the employee who made the blunder seem to have been quite successful. However, let's talk about everything in order. More info: Reddit

The author of the post works in a company where they are a supervisor to nearly 30 other employees

Image credits: faungg's photos (not the actual image) So, the author of the post works in a company where they are a supervisor for more than thirty employees. The Original Poster and their husband had planned a trip to the beach for a whole week, but the OP, being very prudent, took care about a week before the start of their vacation to ensure that their absence did not affect the work process in any way. Image credits: u/hollandaisecrabcake

Before leaving for a vacation the manager warned every subordinate in advance

First, the OP sent out emails to all colleagues that they would be unavailable for a whole week. Then they prepared special instructions for subordinates who were to take over the work with certain clients in their absence. Moreover, the OP specifically shared all the necessary information with each colleague, so they went to the resort in full confidence that everything would go perfectly. Image credits: u/hollandaisecrabcake

After returning to the office the manager found out that one of the clients was literally lost for the company due to their subordinate s incompetence

Remember that famous Murphy's law? "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong." After returning from vacation, the supervisor found a bunch of e-mails from one of their colleagues who urgently needed files for an important client, and who could not find them at all. Image credits: Nkulileko Masondo (not the actual image) As a result, it cost the company that very client, and the blundering manager, trying to justify themselves, simply put the blame on the OP, whom they could not get in touch with for a whole week. The OP was indignant and stated that the colleague had a week before their vacation to find these files, or at least ask them where they are, and that they'd warned everyone in advance that they would not be available. Image credits: u/hollandaisecrabcake

The employee blamed their supervisor for not answering work emails and calls throughout their vacation despite being warned about this

The subordinate's reasoning was, as they say, ironclad – as technically that lost client was the OP's, and the blame, in their opinion, lies largely with the supervisor. Moreover, as the OP admits, nobody around even cared that the manager did not bother to collect the necessary files in advance. Image credits: NEC Corporation of America's (not the actual image)

Most people in the comments however sided with the author of the post as they did everything they could in that very situation

In the opinion of most commenters, however, the OP is not at all to blame for this situation, since they had thought through in detail the transfer of information to subordinates in their absence. After all, it is impossible to foresee all possible ways in which a situation will develop. In any case, people in the comments are sure that the OP's company needs a clearer and more thoughtful system for situations like this. However, a certain share of the blame still lies with the OP, as a supervisor, some people in the comments are convinced. After all, the manager is there to make sure that the employees are efficient even when the higher-ups are not available for any consultation. Although the lion's share of the blame in this particular case lies, of course, with the OP's subordinate. We are almost sure that you have already made up your mind about who is to blame in this story, and what you yourself would do if you were the Original Poster. So we are now looking forward to your comments, and if you also happened to end up in a similar situation, then your own tale will be most welcome. Anyone can write on Bored Panda. Start writing! Follow Bored Panda on Google News! Follow us on Flipboard.com/@boredpanda! Share on Facebook Oleg Tarasenko Oleg Tarasenko Writer, BoredPanda staff Oleg has master's degree in Economics he got long time ago in a city far, far away. Oleg also worked as a university teacher, sports writer and a BDSM* specialist for several IT companies.

After six years of making pub quizzez in Ukraine, Oleg joined Bored Panda team as a content creator. This panda (Pun? Duh!) is also a huge sports fan, being happy as a longtime member of WeDemBoys Community and Boston Celtics Nation as well.

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It's almost like an absolute law in the U.K. that if someone is on holiday you do not, under any circumstance call them and bother them. It can happen with e.g major heads of businesses, Doctors on call etc but they usually give prior permission or it's in their contract to call them if needed anyway. Your average worker here? Nope, it's really frowned on. Holidays are seen as vital time to relax and recharge and think of anything but work. 26 26points reply Viktor Viktor Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago In Germany you would likely be able to claim an extra vacation day if someone calls you while you’re off. Just as you get vacation days back if you get sick/injured during vacation because those days then fall under (unlimited) sick leave. 15 15points reply Load More Replies... Clara Stallworth Clara Stallworth Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 day ago It depends on the individual states, and companies. Some companies deal with unions, which negotiate pay and leave for their members. But the majority of companies have the freedom to govern their employees' time, meaning management can declare mandatory overtime, and can fire them unless the employee has just reason why they can't do it (illness, death, accident, etc). But even companies are legally bound by state and federal laws to provide paid time off, breaks/lunch, even parental leave. 0 0points reply Benji Benji Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago Anyone- ANYONE at all that is saying this guy is the AH needs a reality check. Preferably to the face, with a chair. Period. I could go on a whole essay about how this type of mindset- where someone has to "prepare" for a vacation and have to coddle their employees before they can take a vacation is absurd. I managed large teams and if they messed up while I was gone, that was on them, they are adults and I treat them as such. If my team knows I'm going in vacation, I know they are adults and ask for the tools they need while I'm gone before I go. PERIOD. 18 18points reply The Starsong Princess The Starsong Princess Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago Disagree. It is the manager’s responsibility to make sure their staff is adequately prepared for their absence. If those adults aren’t capable of that, then the manager should have dealt with them long before their vacation. The problem isn’t not answering emails, the problem is OP’s management. There’s no way OP can consider themselves blameless. I also manage large teams and the reason I get paid more is I have more responsibility. That means if something goes wrong on my team, I can’t just throw up my hands and say “not my fault!” 10 10points reply Load More Replies... Amused panda Amused panda Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago Yes, and whilst I can appreciate that the manager isn't going to chase every single member of staff to make sure they what they'll most likely need, and the subordinate might not have requested this particular file because they didn't think it would be necessary, given this is an important client they want to keep happy there was all the more reason for the manager to actively ensure the person delegated the account has or knows where to find the info. But really, that preparation should allow for both planned and emergency absence, making sure that staff know where/how to locate any electronic and/or physical files if and when they are needed, and if the files exceed the subordinate's pay grade, then another manager(s) should have access. 3 3points reply Honu Honu Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago Yep. And the fact that the team was so siloed that one member's absence, even the manager's, was that disruptive is the fault of the manager. They should be the one making sure that things are organized and documented in a way that prevents this. Though this is apparently a business that, in 2022, is having to root around for paper files in an office. I can't remember the last time I saw a paper file. 3 3points reply Deanna Crichley Deanna Crichley Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago In medical research there's a paper file on everything. Every regulatory and government form requires wet signatures from all study personnel. 3 3points reply Cindy Araya Cindy Araya Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 hours ago The Starsong Princess, Disagree. The manager made sure to send proper notification to all of the employees what they had to do to get the files that they needed for the project throughout the entire week, and those that bothered to read the e-mail that she sent out went to her for the necessary files worked just fine, but this one lazy fool who didn't bother to read the e-mail is lost? Read an e-mail you lazy fool! 0 0points reply Deanna Crichley Deanna Crichley Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago Besides all that, it is simply not possible to predict the future. It is not possible to know when a client is going to make additional requests. 4 4points reply Vix Spiderthrust Vix Spiderthrust Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago You've had two periods in the space of a paragraph, you should see your ob/gyn. 2 2points reply Maisey Myles Maisey Myles Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago I giggled and upvoted 3 3points reply SweetsEve SweetsEve Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 19 hours ago I disagree. You clients are your number 1 responsibility and anytime you're not available to them you need to make sure they're entirely covered in your absence. That is the absolute norm. Not doing so is a complete lack of professionalism. The fact that they're more worried about blame then feeling the gut punch of letting the client down and losing the client for their company shows a real problem I don't think they're wrong for being unreachable but they should have made sure that access to whatever was needed was given to who ever needed it. They shouldn't have had to request it. They should have know who was handling what client and made sure they had everything they needed. She's a manager. They could have had a quick one on one with everyone in person before they left. Management has these responsibilities that's why they're management. 0 0points reply Nunna Yurbiz Nunna Yurbiz Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 day ago While I agree the people you work with are fellow professionals who shouldn't need hand-holding in my country the culture is: good or bad, with or without your knowledge, under your control or not, if you're the manager of a department/people then its all on you. Also, you don't know what you don't know, which makes asking for something you'll need pretty hard to do. Success goes both ways, and colleagues should ensure their knowledge is shared with those they work with/for, particularly regarding key info that keeps the company running and everyone employed. 0 0points reply BoredPandaSucks BoredPandaSucks Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago i will hold them and you can swing the chair, or would prefer the opposite? 0 0points reply Libstak Libstak Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 days ago (edited) The correct process if you have clients and are going on vacation is to do a handover including providing the person who is covering your work with all relevant files and info. An organised person, which a supervisor should be would have all this on hand. What if there was an accident or personal emergency that kept you out of touch for several days? Your staff should know how to access what they need. You can't blame them for your poor planning. 10 10points reply Jack Ranger Jack Ranger Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 day ago The OP said she gave them relevant files and everything she thought they'd need. No sure how anyone does better than that since Vulcan mind melds are not a thing. 5 5points reply Load More Replies... SweetsEve SweetsEve Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 19 hours ago She should have known. I'm not in her position I manage my own clients without other staff, but if I were in her position I would have had a 15 minute meeting with everyone taking over a client while I was gone to review the client, client resources, and ensure access was given to everything needed. Or I'd have a back up person able to access anything needed in case of an emergency, maybe another manager or a Superior. Personally I always glance at my emails when I can when .on vacation. I always ask someone to cover issues for me and if I see something relevant I forward said email to my colleague. It takes all of 10 minutes every few days. 1 1point reply Benji Benji Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago The employee should also take responsibility to back each other up. PERIOD. 2 2points reply Libstak Libstak Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago Something which the supervisor is tasked with ensuring. The supervisor is The one which needs to lead by example. 8 8points reply Load More Comments POST Dizzie D Dizzie D Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago The US work / life balance is very strange. It's almost like an absolute law in the U.K. that if someone is on holiday you do not, under any circumstance call them and bother them. It can happen with e.g major heads of businesses, Doctors on call etc but they usually give prior permission or it's in their contract to call them if needed anyway. Your average worker here? Nope, it's really frowned on. Holidays are seen as vital time to relax and recharge and think of anything but work. 26 26points reply Viktor Viktor Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago In Germany you would likely be able to claim an extra vacation day if someone calls you while you’re off. Just as you get vacation days back if you get sick/injured during vacation because those days then fall under (unlimited) sick leave. 15 15points reply Load More Replies... Clara Stallworth Clara Stallworth Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 day ago It depends on the individual states, and companies. Some companies deal with unions, which negotiate pay and leave for their members. But the majority of companies have the freedom to govern their employees' time, meaning management can declare mandatory overtime, and can fire them unless the employee has just reason why they can't do it (illness, death, accident, etc). But even companies are legally bound by state and federal laws to provide paid time off, breaks/lunch, even parental leave. 0 0points reply Benji Benji Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago Anyone- ANYONE at all that is saying this guy is the AH needs a reality check. Preferably to the face, with a chair. Period. I could go on a whole essay about how this type of mindset- where someone has to "prepare" for a vacation and have to coddle their employees before they can take a vacation is absurd. I managed large teams and if they messed up while I was gone, that was on them, they are adults and I treat them as such. If my team knows I'm going in vacation, I know they are adults and ask for the tools they need while I'm gone before I go. PERIOD. 18 18points reply The Starsong Princess The Starsong Princess Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago Disagree. It is the manager’s responsibility to make sure their staff is adequately prepared for their absence. If those adults aren’t capable of that, then the manager should have dealt with them long before their vacation. The problem isn’t not answering emails, the problem is OP’s management. There’s no way OP can consider themselves blameless. I also manage large teams and the reason I get paid more is I have more responsibility. That means if something goes wrong on my team, I can’t just throw up my hands and say “not my fault!” 10 10points reply Load More Replies... Amused panda Amused panda Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago Yes, and whilst I can appreciate that the manager isn't going to chase every single member of staff to make sure they what they'll most likely need, and the subordinate might not have requested this particular file because they didn't think it would be necessary, given this is an important client they want to keep happy there was all the more reason for the manager to actively ensure the person delegated the account has or knows where to find the info. But really, that preparation should allow for both planned and emergency absence, making sure that staff know where/how to locate any electronic and/or physical files if and when they are needed, and if the files exceed the subordinate's pay grade, then another manager(s) should have access. 3 3points reply Honu Honu Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago Yep. And the fact that the team was so siloed that one member's absence, even the manager's, was that disruptive is the fault of the manager. They should be the one making sure that things are organized and documented in a way that prevents this. Though this is apparently a business that, in 2022, is having to root around for paper files in an office. I can't remember the last time I saw a paper file. 3 3points reply Deanna Crichley Deanna Crichley Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago In medical research there's a paper file on everything. Every regulatory and government form requires wet signatures from all study personnel. 3 3points reply Cindy Araya Cindy Araya Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 8 hours ago The Starsong Princess, Disagree. The manager made sure to send proper notification to all of the employees what they had to do to get the files that they needed for the project throughout the entire week, and those that bothered to read the e-mail that she sent out went to her for the necessary files worked just fine, but this one lazy fool who didn't bother to read the e-mail is lost? Read an e-mail you lazy fool! 0 0points reply Deanna Crichley Deanna Crichley Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago Besides all that, it is simply not possible to predict the future. It is not possible to know when a client is going to make additional requests. 4 4points reply Vix Spiderthrust Vix Spiderthrust Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago You've had two periods in the space of a paragraph, you should see your ob/gyn. 2 2points reply Maisey Myles Maisey Myles Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago I giggled and upvoted 3 3points reply SweetsEve SweetsEve Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 19 hours ago I disagree. You clients are your number 1 responsibility and anytime you're not available to them you need to make sure they're entirely covered in your absence. That is the absolute norm. Not doing so is a complete lack of professionalism. The fact that they're more worried about blame then feeling the gut punch of letting the client down and losing the client for their company shows a real problem I don't think they're wrong for being unreachable but they should have made sure that access to whatever was needed was given to who ever needed it. They shouldn't have had to request it. They should have know who was handling what client and made sure they had everything they needed. She's a manager. They could have had a quick one on one with everyone in person before they left. Management has these responsibilities that's why they're management. 0 0points reply Nunna Yurbiz Nunna Yurbiz Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 day ago While I agree the people you work with are fellow professionals who shouldn't need hand-holding in my country the culture is: good or bad, with or without your knowledge, under your control or not, if you're the manager of a department/people then its all on you. Also, you don't know what you don't know, which makes asking for something you'll need pretty hard to do. Success goes both ways, and colleagues should ensure their knowledge is shared with those they work with/for, particularly regarding key info that keeps the company running and everyone employed. 0 0points reply BoredPandaSucks BoredPandaSucks Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago i will hold them and you can swing the chair, or would prefer the opposite? 0 0points reply Libstak Libstak Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 3 days ago (edited) The correct process if you have clients and are going on vacation is to do a handover including providing the person who is covering your work with all relevant files and info. An organised person, which a supervisor should be would have all this on hand. What if there was an accident or personal emergency that kept you out of touch for several days? Your staff should know how to access what they need. You can't blame them for your poor planning. 10 10points reply Jack Ranger Jack Ranger Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 1 day ago The OP said she gave them relevant files and everything she thought they'd need. No sure how anyone does better than that since Vulcan mind melds are not a thing. 5 5points reply Load More Replies... SweetsEve SweetsEve Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 19 hours ago She should have known. I'm not in her position I manage my own clients without other staff, but if I were in her position I would have had a 15 minute meeting with everyone taking over a client while I was gone to review the client, client resources, and ensure access was given to everything needed. Or I'd have a back up person able to access anything needed in case of an emergency, maybe another manager or a Superior. Personally I always glance at my emails when I can when .on vacation. I always ask someone to cover issues for me and if I see something relevant I forward said email to my colleague. It takes all of 10 minutes every few days. 1 1point reply Benji Benji Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago The employee should also take responsibility to back each other up. PERIOD. 2 2points reply Libstak Libstak Community Member • points posts comments upvotes FollowUnfollow 2 days ago Something which the supervisor is tasked with ensuring. The supervisor is The one which needs to lead by example. 8 8points reply Load More Comments Popular on Bored Panda I Used AI To See What These 23 Popular Cartoon Characters Would Look Like In Real Life 30 Y.O. 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